Miller VS Lincoln, Other, Recommendations Please
Close
Login to Your Account
Results 1 to 17 of 17
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Texas
    Posts
    6
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    7
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Question Miller VS Lincoln, Other, Recommendations Please

    Help Please,

    Expanding and need to buy two new welders. For in-shop use only, not out in the field.

    Requirements:

    Working with 1/2" and down metal.
    Wire Feed (obviously)
    1 Phase 220-250 Volt.
    Sturdy card design.

    Thanks,

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Michigan
    Posts
    21
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    12
    Likes (Received)
    4

    Default

    Are you looking for high performance (e.g. pulsed) or price point? Also what kind of duty cycle do you need (arc-on percentage of time)?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Texas
    Posts
    6
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    7
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Well I want high performance at the best price, we weld allot of 12" to 16" pipe, so longer arc on.......We have 2 older L-Tech welders, now owned by ESAB

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    1,937
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    148
    Likes (Received)
    1428

    Default

    Sucks you don't have 3phase becuase you can get 302p's for a nickle with a feeder. Since you are stuck on single phase I would buy an XMT.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Texas
    Posts
    6
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    7
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    We do have 3 phase 220-440, just want flexibility,

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    1,937
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    148
    Likes (Received)
    1428

    Default

    Man for the cost you can't beat a big old 3 phase transformer machine on bang for the buck. I bought two with wirefeeders for $300.

  7. Likes WeldFab, digger doug, Garwood liked this post
  8. #7
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Michigan
    Posts
    21
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    12
    Likes (Received)
    4

    Default

    We use all XMT 450 machines. They run about $4200 + $2200 for the MPa Plus wire feeder. If you want pulsed MIG you can either use the Invision ($5000 + feeder) or the Continuum ($10K for complete MigRunner package). The Continuum is Miller's top-level machine; we don't have any here, but one of our subcontractors does and he really likes the AccuPulse feature. It seems most of the shops in this area use Miller. The local gas supplier sells Miller, Lincoln, Fronius, and Esab; I have asked them about the other brands and they always recommend Miller....

  9. Likes WeldFab liked this post
  10. #8
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Michigan
    Posts
    21
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    12
    Likes (Received)
    4

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
    Man for the cost you can't beat a big old 3 phase transformer machine on bang for the buck. I bought two with wirefeeders for $300.
    Sure, if you don't care about production. We used to use old CP300s and other transformer machines, but once we got started on inverters, we never looked back. You can't beat digital parameter controls, pre-programmed settings, trigger program select, pulsed arc, ramped wire run-in, and pre-post flow control. The parameters also don't keep drifting around all day like the old machines.

  11. Likes WeldFab liked this post
  12. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    1,937
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    148
    Likes (Received)
    1428

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ChipSplitter View Post
    Sure, if you don't care about production. We used to use old CP300s and other transformer machines, but once we got started on inverters, we never looked back. You can't beat digital parameter controls, pre-programmed settings, trigger program select, pulsed arc, ramped wire run-in, and pre-post flow control. The parameters also don't keep drifting around all day like the old machines.
    I also recommended an XMT... now a person asking broad welder recommendations on a forum with no budget isn't going to get great advice. The Continuum is amazing, if you can afford it.

  13. Likes WeldFab, digger doug liked this post
  14. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    7
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    4

    Default

    Lincoln powermig 260..

  15. Likes WeldFab liked this post
  16. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Albany Ny USA
    Posts
    401
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    1418
    Likes (Received)
    198

    Default

    If you're gonna get a lincoln go for the 350 mp. Still single phase but can kick out 350 amps. + fancy pulse modes if one desires. It can also run as a DC tig and stick without much fuss

  17. #12
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Kansas
    Posts
    251
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    58
    Likes (Received)
    111

    Default

    XMT with autoline. Pretty hard to beat and I can carry 350 for half of forever..

  18. #13
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Oklahoma City, OK
    Posts
    4,026
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    706
    Likes (Received)
    1723

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by PlasmaOnTheBrain View Post
    If you're gonna get a lincoln go for the 350 mp. Still single phase but can kick out 350 amps. + fancy pulse modes if one desires. It can also run as a DC tig and stick without much fuss
    ^^^^ great machine.

    Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

  19. Likes PlasmaOnTheBrain liked this post
  20. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Texas
    Posts
    6
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    7
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default

    Allot of things to consider,

  21. #15
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    California, Central Coast
    Posts
    3,038
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    2111
    Likes (Received)
    1166

    Default

    I have been using XMT 304 for 20 yrs or so and they are great machines. I have two right now. Best is they will go out in the field if needed and link to any 220-440volt, single or three phase. They will really put out the juice if plugged into 3 phase, I only have single phase at shop and it is no problem for me to run hours of 250-300 amp welding baseplates or stiffeners on I-beams. The good ones will run any wire feeder and simple tig. The newer ones xmt350? have built in pulser, I have the pendant but dont use it too often.

  22. #16
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Country
    UNITED STATES
    State/Province
    Oregon
    Posts
    7
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    4

    Default

    The Powerwave 300c is a much better machine then a PM-350..Way better pulse features, Had both.. Powermig 260 is still where I would go..Although none of those machines has a arc as nice as my current Sanrex Thermal-arc If you could find a older Miller Shop-mate 300DX those, and or a Esab 260/300 dx weld excellent.

  23. #17
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    3,902
    Post Thanks / Like
    Likes (Given)
    4214
    Likes (Received)
    1973

    Default

    I bought a new Lincoln 256 9 months ago. Complete pile of Chinese fuck. Feed system was misaligned, out of round plastic shit. Fixed that and still couldn't make it work right. Local rep came out and said it seemed OK. 6 months later I take on another big welding job. It still welds like shit. Unstable arc, eats lincolns proprietary contact tips every 10 minutes or so. Spatters like you wouldn't believe.

    Bought an Airco CV250 from 1977 for $300 that works great. I forced them to acknowledge it's unacceptable, to take it and not bring it back until it's fixed.

    It's been 2 months and Lincoln hasn't done a fucking thing yet. They never call with an update like they say they will and Every couple weeks when I call them they say they haven't touched it yet.

    Fuck lincoln.

    I will never own another Lincoln welder.


Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •