Weldingwilly
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- Dec 13, 2020
Greetings. I have been lurking around here for the past several months researching hydraulic press brakes. The forum has a treasure trove of comments based on practical experience, which I really appreciate as a rookie in this area.
My options for press brakes are somewhat limited to due to budget ($15-25k), power type and garage workshop size. One hydraulic brake that caught my eye was Baileigh's BP-3142 since I could plug and play with the single phase 220v power plus the 31" width would cover 90% of my bends. It also has a relatively small footprint and is manufactured in Wisconsin (unlike Baileigh's blue and white brakes made in China).
QUESTIONS
BAILEIGH BP-3142 31"/42 ton: Made in USA; single phase power; small footprint; shorter length would cover 90% of my bending needs, but would have to outsource 2 parts due to length
Small Hydraulic Press Brake | Metal Brake for Hydraulic Press | Baileigh Industrial
Baileigh rep told me the following: "BP-3142NC has been in production for about 8 years now. We originally designed the machine to be installed on military ships and the machine was 110v. Over the years we had more requests for the machine, so we changed the tooling to a 2" wide vee and made the machine 220v 1 phase. Machine is now 220v 1 phase only. Made in the USA."
I have not been able to find any online reviews on this model, but did exchange with a guy who has been using it for 6-7 years and has been generally pleased although it was not clear whether he was using it for production purposes.
Iroquois 48"/50 ton: USA-built; smallest model; also 220v single phase; closed frame design; longer stroke length than the others
B48/50 Press Brake - Iroquois Ironworker, Inc.
Atek-Bantam B424 48"/24 ton: Length would cover 100% of my needs; pneumatic fast & efficient; it would require me to purchase 10hp air compressor for necessary duty cycle to run light production according to Atek)
Atek Bantam 4' Bed 24 Ton Pneumatic Press Brake B424
INTENDED USE
My needs are very specific as I am focusing exclusively on light production of a single product.
$15-25k. I am generally a buy-once-cry-once kind of guy so I have some flexibility if it means major jump in productivity and/or performance.
Any feedback would be much appreciated!
My options for press brakes are somewhat limited to due to budget ($15-25k), power type and garage workshop size. One hydraulic brake that caught my eye was Baileigh's BP-3142 since I could plug and play with the single phase 220v power plus the 31" width would cover 90% of my bends. It also has a relatively small footprint and is manufactured in Wisconsin (unlike Baileigh's blue and white brakes made in China).
QUESTIONS
- What are your thoughts on this Baileigh model for my intended use (see below)?
- Are there are other important factors that come into play for low tonnage "light" production on a press brake?
- Should I buy direct from Baileigh or through a distributor? Do you recommend a particular distributor for press brakes?
- Are there alternative brakes that I should be considering? I have looked closely at several others listed below, which price in same similar range after adding essentials)
BAILEIGH BP-3142 31"/42 ton: Made in USA; single phase power; small footprint; shorter length would cover 90% of my bending needs, but would have to outsource 2 parts due to length
Small Hydraulic Press Brake | Metal Brake for Hydraulic Press | Baileigh Industrial
Baileigh rep told me the following: "BP-3142NC has been in production for about 8 years now. We originally designed the machine to be installed on military ships and the machine was 110v. Over the years we had more requests for the machine, so we changed the tooling to a 2" wide vee and made the machine 220v 1 phase. Machine is now 220v 1 phase only. Made in the USA."
I have not been able to find any online reviews on this model, but did exchange with a guy who has been using it for 6-7 years and has been generally pleased although it was not clear whether he was using it for production purposes.
Iroquois 48"/50 ton: USA-built; smallest model; also 220v single phase; closed frame design; longer stroke length than the others
B48/50 Press Brake - Iroquois Ironworker, Inc.
Atek-Bantam B424 48"/24 ton: Length would cover 100% of my needs; pneumatic fast & efficient; it would require me to purchase 10hp air compressor for necessary duty cycle to run light production according to Atek)
Atek Bantam 4' Bed 24 Ton Pneumatic Press Brake B424
INTENDED USE
My needs are very specific as I am focusing exclusively on light production of a single product.
- Volume: Initial volume will be approx. 150-200 bends per week (not sure if this qualifies as light production LOL). Rapid ram approach and return speed is a consideration although probably not critical at this stage.
- Gauge: Cold-rolled mild steel. 95% of pieces are 14 gauge with a few small 3/16 brackets.
- Maximum bend length - There are 17 unique pieces per unit. 15 of the 17 pieces have bends of 24" or less (the two outlier pieces are 48" long).
- Press brake length: 48" open frame would cover 100% of my bends. 24" would cover 90% of my bends and I would have to outsource my two longest bends (48" which also happen to be my two box/pan bends (see below)
- Tonnage: Based on tonnage charts, it appears that bare minimum would be 18.8 tons for 14 gauge x longest bend of 48" based on 5/8 die opening. Do I need minimum of 24 tons to include cushion? Sweet spot of 35-40?
- Flanges: The bend flanges range in size from 1.5" to 4". Fortunately, none of my pieces have more than one flange size.
- Bend type: Majority of pieces require simple 90 degree bend on one side or opposite sides of piece. However, the two longest pieces mentioned above are 48"x24" shallow pans requiring bends on all 4 sides with relief holes.
- CNC versus DRO: Heavy emphasis on repeatable bends!!! CNC backgauge does not seem like it would be essential for the time being. However, it is my understanding that I will need either digital readout or lockable micro-adjustments on X & Y axis for reasonable precision w/ consistent repeat bends.
- Support table: Front work table/support arms would be nice to have for the two larger 48"x24" shallow pan pieces. The other pieces are manageable without support arms.
- Power: Press will be located in my residential garage where I am currently limited to 220v single phase power. To expand my options, I am open to investing in a 3-phase power converter or a 7.5-10hp air compressor for pneumatic press.
- Work area: My dedicated work area in the garage for the press brake and storage of the steel is limited to 9x9 area.
- Experience level: My metal fabrication experience is limited to MIG welding. I have none with press brake.
$15-25k. I am generally a buy-once-cry-once kind of guy so I have some flexibility if it means major jump in productivity and/or performance.
Any feedback would be much appreciated!