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    First of all If at all possible rent from Ryder or Pensky They are all most always cheaper then Uhaul and the maintenance record of UHaul as well as the age of the trucks is horrendus. With Ryder and Pensky the trucks are usualy no mare then 4 years old and will typicaly have more power then a UHaul.
    We can address this another way....has *anybody* *ever* seen a Uhaul/Ryder/Penske rental van pulled over by the Motor Carrier/DOT police before
    The answer is Yes I have been pulled over a nunber of times in the past couple years driving rental trucks to be checked over including this past June in Georga driving a 24' Pensky box truck that was registered under the CDL limit anjd yes I was directed to cross the scale. The motivation for stopping seemed to be a non local plate and wanted to make sure I was meeting local regs. I was even once directed into an inspection station for a full mechanical review which took over an hour and involved under the hood as well as the inspector on a creeper under the truck and this was on a less then two year old Ryder. The officer told me he didn't trust the maitenance programs of the rental fleets so checked them when ever he had a chance.
    I would email the state police in each state you plan to drive through and ask for the regulations for your situation and print out the replies and carry them with you. If stopped you can then show the officer that you were making every effort to follow the rules. I would also carry a log book and follow the rules for hours of driving. Even though you are transporting personal goods it is one more issue they may hold against you if you are stopped.

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    One thing to keep in mind is that the interstates in some states have a lower speed limit for trucks then for cars. If going trough Ohio be particularly careful as they seem to have no tolerance for any amount over the limit. I was once tickeded in Ohio for 3 miles over the limit on the interstate.

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    Matt:

    "has *anybody* *ever* seen a Uhaul/Ryder/Penske rental van pulled over by the Motor Carrier/DOT police before???"

    YES! But it wasn't exactly a Weigh Station. During times of heightened security alerts, EVERY rental truck crossing the George Washington Bridge gets stopped and checked by the NY/NJ Port Authority Police and THE NATIONAL GUARD. Ditto the Lincoln & Holland tunnels.

    I don't think they are looking for overloads, if you get my drift, but if they noticed one they certainly have the authority to follow up on it.

    These inspections usually cause traffic tie-ups due to lane closures.

    BTW: The lower level of the George Washington Bridge has been closed to trucks since 9/11.

    John Ruth

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    well i know that a couple years ago my boss was driving our company box truck, a 26,000gvw international well he figured no cdl needed so no weigh station, wrong, he was chased down and escorted back to the weigh station

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    You need to sell the household stuff anyway. Need to make more chips!

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    At the CHP weigh station on I-80 in Truckee, CA there is a sign that says rental trucks must stop.

    ....just a heads up....

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    most states require any truck over 10,000 lbs GVW to cross the scale, and have signs posted stating so
    I wish...the LACK of signs stating such things has always been part of my annoyance with weigh stations....typically all the sign says is "All trucks must enter"...and that's it...nothing about "commercial" or GVW or anything else..just "All trucks must enter"

    So one is left to ponder what exactly is a "truck" ? Should you pull in, in your Subaru Scamp or Chevy LUV ??

    What morons..... :rolleyes: Well ok, I know why they do it...so they can nail anyone for anything, depending on their mood.

    Re rental trucks under 26K...in the Southeast, pass on by the weight station, no problem....anywhere else in the country where folks are more uptight and trying to squeeze every last bit of blood out of every turnip, you probably should go thru the weight stations and cowtow to their BS.

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    I've moved myself across country several times. AL to WA, WA to AZ, AZ to FL, FL to AZ; mostly all using Ryder vans with a car trailer behind. I've never pulled over at a weigh station (including the trip from WA to AZ through CA on I5) and never been hassled. Before I started the first move from AL to WA I asked the troopers and rental agency and was told not to stop, never thought about it again. Maybe I got just didn’t catch them on a bad day? But I have had to stop EVERY time I go into CA for them to check for produce and such. God I absolutely HATE CA!!! I charge a 20% premium ABOVE general cost adjustments every time I do business there JUST because they make everything such a PIA...

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    I just had one more thought. I normally rent U-Hauls. Yes, The Penskes are better trucks but the old U-Hauls have Metal floors. Penske trucks have wooden floors. Just say "Household Goods" to the Penske guy.

    After signing for and inspecting the truck I casually mentioned I was moving a Lathe. The guy jerked the keys outta my hands, tore up the contract, refunded my Credit/insurance Deposit and stated that was "abuse of his truck!"

    I have also had to pay for the repair of the lift gate once. I got bad info as to the weight of the Lathe and the lift gate couldn't handle it. Twisted up like a pretzel, but I managed to save the Lathe!

    Get yourself a truckers atlas if you are really worried, spiral bound, Laminated pages, every weigh station indicated, worth the money! You can get into any state {Including CA} without passing a weigh station {I have done it hauling those same fireworks/explosives to the other "Rat World.} And not being commercial you are not required to maintain a Log book {or 2 or 3! }

    Just look & play dumb guy moving. They want the Rigs; where they can make their quota on fines! You are not even small potatoes!

    Just food for thought.

    Safe Trip, Ken

    Oh and BTW Matt: Yes I have been pulled over and spot checked by the DOT Gestapo! He saw my explosives placards and almost rolled his car coming thru the median to come over and stop me! I had already stopped, got out and had all my papers in hand. Which was good 'cause his were shaking so bad I had to laugh! He turned red, had me sign the "contact" letter/ticket, and I was on my way!

    But I was held for 2 days as "Frustrated Cargo" entering Mississippi. The Secretary at the plant gave me the Bill of Lading for another guy's truck! I stayed at the weigh station and slept in the truck while they made the Secretary drive the correct paperwork to me. She never ****** up again!

    Matt: You must have been posting while I was 2 finger typing! YOU get the ticket, not Penske or U-haul. You were in control and "Temporary ownership" of the truck.

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    One last point...supposing you were "pullt over" in a rental van for something other than speeding or being overweight...who gets the ticket, citation/fine, the driver, or the registered owner of the vehicle (rental corp)??

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    Its funny how the rental places vary. I've rented from Penske twice. Both times I specifically told them I was moving machinery- 2nd time I was very particular about the capacity of the lift gate. They didn't mind in the least that I was moving machinery.

    For moving machines, the thing most lacking in their vans are hard points to tie down to. Theres plenty of "lightweight" points that ropes can tie to but nothing really substantial for the the big ratchet straps. Around Baltimore, Ryder says they rent open "stake trucks" which would help the tiedown issue but I was never able to actually get them to schedule one for me.

    Regards,

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    Greg,

    Excellent point and very true!

    Here is where the wooden floor becomes an advantage rather than a weak point. You can ring shank nail 2 X 4 or 4 X 4 cleats to the floor of the truck. Usually for lathes, that's enough, along with those wimpy tie down/in points. It gets more problematic with a mill.

    Ken

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    "Why dont you ask those who KNOW? UHaul"
    U-Hoo doe noe sheet!
    worse company I have every done business with, I recomend staying away from them especially for longer hauls!

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    Re tiedown points in wood floor box trucks, be prepared with forged eye bolts, backing plate (i.e. large thick washer), battery drill, drill bit and tapered wood plugs to plug up the holes you drilled when you are finished and removed the eye bolts !

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    Most cargo movment is forward when you hit the breaks. I doubt you are going to be able to gas it enough to slide it back.

    I have played the dumb guy moving, with sucess. I moved my fathers workshop from CA to PA and was pulled over in AZ for a tail light out. I could not find the rental paper (back in CA on the kitchen table) and still got off with only a 'fix it' paper.

    Ted

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    Most cargo movment is forward when you hit the breaks
    In the real world of box truck driving, most cargo movement is when you are entering or leaving a fuel station or whatever, and turning while driving over a high ramp/curb and the truck box sways back and forth violently while you cuss about why the hell is it doing that when you are going dead slow trying to avoid just that, and it's happening anyway, and then you cuss about how the morons that do paving apparently don't know what they are doing !

    But seriously, it's side to side sway that is the biggest problem in those things...pot holes, unexpected swerves due to someone cutting in front of you, and those damn road to parking lot thresholds I mentioned.

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    if you don't belive Don, just try riding next to a unsecured load inside the box!!!

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    My last experience was about 30 years ago. Move from Arkansas to Colorado. Missed the weigh station going into New Mexico. Stopped at the one leaving. Operator told me I would have been in trouble if I had been pulled over while in the state. 3 years later moved back to Arkansas so I skipped New Mexico. Left the interstate just a few miles east of Denver, found a weigh station just off the freeway, sign said all trucks must stop. 24' Uhaul was about 6000 lbs overweight. Station operator told me to go on my way since it was personal goods. He paid no attention to one corner being much lower due to the barrel full of steel.

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    Sorry Don - A trucker of many years gave me that jem, I just believed it was true!

    Ted

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    QB,
    Between Boston and CA you will pass through tens of thousands of more desirable places. Anywhere you stop would be an improvement.


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