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    Quote Originally Posted by dkmc View Post
    Molly-Dee 16oz bottle on Amazon $12

    Molly-Dee 16oz bottle in the new MSC catalog that came UPS yesterday
    $46

    WTF??
    The scamazon price is probably only if you're one of their "Special" customers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Dickman View Post
    The scamazon price is probably only if you're one of their "Special" customers
    On the contrary... that's the "everybody" price. It's not available for free shipping to Amazon Prime customers.

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    Shipping is like $3 at Amazon.
    I feel like taking the 4" thick MSC "cinderblock"
    out to the dumpster and dropping it in.

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    Jeesh........got the new bottle.
    This crap stinks!
    The old stuff smelled a lot like Sulfur cutting oil, but this new formula just smells BAD

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    Friends are using new formula for vertical shaper work in 304/316 s.s. and it works as good as the " old " type they used up.
    I think it always stunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkmc View Post
    Jeesh........got the new bottle.
    This crap stinks!
    The old stuff smelled a lot like Sulfur cutting oil, but this new formula just smells BAD
    Yeah, the new stuff smells like a dog's ass. It's pretty bad.

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    Everything causes cancer, so nothing causes cancer. (30 year cancer veteran). We use STP.

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    Currently I'm running mostly a mix of 50% Molly Dee, 30% -40% rapid tap, and the rest wd40. I keep it in a small pipette for tapping mostly 2024 in the Bridgeport. It also works well for low carbon steel. When I get into grown-up metals I bring out the 16oz squeeze bottle of the straight stuff. Works pretty damn good in tool steel, I'm gonna give it a go on some 17-4 in the next few weeks I have 28 1/4-20 and 10 5/16-18 threaded holes to do, probably going to go .500 to .625 deep.

    I also use my mix for drilling a little dab'll do ya.

    It's in a (maybe) 1oz pippette, it lasts about a month or 2

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    I don't know of you can get this stuff in the states, but it's the when-all-else-fails solution over here. I suspect it's similar to Moly-Dee. In any case, it's the answer for the really nasty tapping jobs.

    MCC, MWF and MWS – high-performance metal working lubricants for drilling, reaming, tapping and other metal working operations | Molyslip

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregormarwick View Post
    I don't know of you can get this stuff in the states, but it's the when-all-else-fails solution over here. I suspect it's similar to Moly-Dee. In any case, it's the answer for the really nasty tapping jobs.

    MCC, MWF and MWS – high-performance metal working lubricants for drilling, reaming, tapping and other metal working operations | Molyslip
    No SDS on that stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdmidget View Post
    No SDS on that stuff?
    There's an email form there on the page to request the msds.

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    I see it on ebay, but the shipping (from England) is more than the product.

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    There was some stuff that came in small plastic squeeze jars, I think Western Tool used to carry it. Was a kind of light green color, almost a paste, meant for 316 and other difficult materials. It was really nice to work with and did a good job, made by some small outfit. Local to northern Californee ?

    The old Tap-Magic aluminum was killer ... in more ways than one Sure worked good but I guess I'm happy to still have a liver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MushCreek View Post
    I see it on ebay, but the shipping (from England) is more than the product.
    I expect so, but it might just be worth it. Get a small tub of the paste (MCC IIRC) and try it out.

    Should've said in the previous post, the paste is the real heavy duty stuff. The liquids are good, but not as good.

    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    There was some stuff that came in small plastic squeeze jars, I think Western Tool used to carry it. Was a kind of light green color, almost a paste, meant for 316 and other difficult materials.
    Trefolex? Consistency like toothpaste, kind of light olive green colour?

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    Crazy environmentally panicked machinist I worked with 30 years ago swore by Anchorlube

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    Way, way back in the 70's when I worked on screw machines, we had an ancient can of stuff- can't remember the name. It was a dark brownish-green, and was the consistency of grease. The old timers would add some to the regular black sulfur-based oil when tapping tough stuff. Wish I could find some of that stuff, whatever it was.

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    EmanuelGoldstein --

    I'm going to guess that the light-green paste you speak of was "WestLube", which was marketed by Westland Products of Morgan Hill, California. If I'm remembering correctly, the twenty-some-years-ago MSDS for WestLube said that it was manufactured by Anchor Chemical (the maker and marketer of Anchorlube), and both the WestLube and Anchorlube MSDSs identified the product as a mixture of liquid soap and powdered talc.

    Maybe twenty-five yearss before that, one of the machine-shop instructors at San Francisco's public technical school recommended a home-brew paste made by mixing animal fat (lard or tallow) with baby powder as an alternative to animal-fat-and-graphite whenever the latter's potential for incidental staining is unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MushCreek View Post
    Way, way back in the 70's when I worked on screw machines, we had an ancient can of stuff- can't remember the name. It was a dark brownish-green, and was the consistency of grease. The old timers would add some to the regular black sulfur-based oil when tapping tough stuff. Wish I could find some of that stuff, whatever it was.
    Sounds like Trefolex

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    That's it! Also not readily available on this side of the 'pond'. I don't know how we wound up with a can of it.

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    Can Molly Dee be used as a lubricant?


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