Aloris wedge grip throwaway users... Any good?

rons

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• Nov 28, 2021

• #1

This is the holder:

Wedge Grip Throwaway Insert Blades 71-125-1BSL*

The inserts in question:

GT Style Aloris Wedge-Grip Carbide Cut-Off Insert GTN-3P-767

 

Last edited: Nov 28, 2021

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ratbldr427

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• Nov 28, 2021

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Probably as good as any of them. Looks like an Iscar copy.There are a lot of copies out for half that price or less.

 

EmGo

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• Nov 28, 2021

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ratbldr427 said:

Looks like an Iscar copy.

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And I think Iscar copied them from Valenite ... Sandvik made a similar system way back when too. Forty years ago ?

Don't particularly care for them because they don't locate the insert very well, but they work okay for manual machining.

 

rons

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The holder has to sit in one of these.

Cut-Off & Grooving Holder AXA-71

 

EmGo

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rons said:

The holder has to sit in one of these

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According to them ...

 

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MwTech Inc

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• Nov 29, 2021

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Have used them for years, all manual machining.
Have done well.......does allow you to "stick" it out a bit for a deeper cut.

Caution of course.......lol

 

rons

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The inserts are not locked in with a screw as with all the other tool holders I have. And the inset width is on the heavy side.

 

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Marty Feldman

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rons said:

The inserts are not locked in with a screw as with all the other tool holders I have. And the inset width is on the heavy side.

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OP question: "Any good?"
I have used them for a long time in cutoff jobs and have found them good. The lack of a clamping screw has not caused a loss of insert holding ability as far as I can see. And the width being on the heavy side has not been a drawback - it fosters rigidity, and for just about every use I have had for this method I have not found that I could not live with the slight loss of material that the wider kerf causes. Happy with these things.

-Marty-

 

rons

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Marty Feldman said:

And the width being on the heavy side has not been a drawback - it fosters rigidity, and for just about every use I have had for this method I have not found that I could not live with the slight loss of material that the wider kerf causes.

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I tried two Micro 100 blades and they both broke at the same point. That was at the holder side right at the braze. Those were thin blades in aluminum.
Trying to save a little bit of stock is not worth it.