Anti-sieze compound types and uses

Bill D · Nov 5, 2020

I need to buy another jar of antisieze. My old tin with a brush top is almost used up. For general use spark plugs, battery terminals, exhaust pipes what is recommended these days. I know some is called sensor safe for O2 sensors etc on cars. High nickel, copper, not stated or what. My existing jar was found 30 years ago half full washed up on the beach and I can not read the printing to get a brand. It is better then what I had bought before. I think the overall color on the can is a copper background color.
Bill D

thermite · Nov 5, 2020

Bill D said:
I need to buy another jar of antisieze. My old tin with a brush top is almost used up. For general use spark plugs, battery terminals, exhaust pipes what is recommended these days. I know some is called sensor safe for O2 sensors etc on cars. High nickel, copper, not stated or what. My existing jar was found 30 years ago half full washed up on the beach and I can not read the printing to get a brand. It is better then what I had bought before. I think the overall color on the can is a copper background color.
Bill D

"Never Seize" MbS2 in a sort of grease was put up that way in brush-cap tins with SILVER(ey) background labels about 30-40 years ago. Permatex/Loctite owns them now.

O2 sensors, but "not only" .... later saw Copper-laden and Nickel-laden goops become common.

I need to stock those three just because of OEM recommendation diffs between various motor cars and Diesel gasket fitting. Not cheap, but they do seem to "keep" for long years if not contaminated.

AFAIK, there are even MORE out there amongst speciality suppliers, most of the others even more gawdawful expensive.

Auto parts stores have most of them. Just put them into the drawer, then use whatever the gadgetry requires. Near-as-dammit "lifetime" suppy aven in a small tubes, so it isn't worth a lot of agonizing nor chasing after.

No klew what happens if you use the "wrong one", either, but with 4 O2 sensors on the one 4.2 V8 alone, I wasn't inclined to play R&D lab.

machinistrrt · Nov 5, 2020

I learned to use nickel based antiseize when I had a sailboat; aluminum doesn't really get on with stainless but dislikes copper more, so I settled on the nickel based. If you don't need high temp, anhydrous lanolin works well; cheap, too.

John Garner · Nov 5, 2020

Bill D --

There are a number of companies marketing a number of different types of anti-seize compound, and those companies usually provide good information as to the types of jobs the different types of compound are best suited for. Armite Labs is one such company, and it will probably be worth your time to review their website.

Beyond that, over the past several years I've heard a few "songs and dances" about the general superiority of ceramic-filled anti-seize compounds in a wide array of applications.

Of course, there are sometimes conflicting "expert opinions" . . . take aircraft spark plugs as an example: The makers of aircraft spark plugs sell a graphite-based anti-seize, one of the major aircraft engine makers (Continental or Lycoming, but I've forgotten which) is now recommending copper-based anti-seize for spark plugs, and old-time aircraft powerplant mechanics still talk about milk of magnesia or powdered mica in oil as spark plug anti-seize.

John

steve45 · Nov 5, 2020

You can't beat MicaLube by The BG Service Company. It's used on high temp industrial engine spark plugs, etc.

Gordon Heaton · Nov 5, 2020

If you could still get lead-based, I'd say get that. Otherwise for general purpose use, copper.

gmach10 · Nov 5, 2020

I work in a place that has locations with high H2S (Hydrogen Sulfite). Ever see what H2S does to copper and brass? The only Anti Seize they buy is the one that contains copper. This crap does the polar opposite of it's intended purpose in these locations. Used on a shaft at time of bearing install to make it easier to remove next time. Next time bearing has to come off the copper in the paste turns black and acts like LockTite. Wish someone would get the cranium out of their sphincters' and buy the Nickle base instead.

gmach10 · Nov 5, 2020

Remembered a reply someone posted on here before regarding Never Seize. He said, "I get that shit on me when I order it"!

JST · Nov 5, 2020

I've used the graphite type for a long time, and have no complaints, but I understand it is not recommended for some things (not sure what they are). It does seem to effectively prevent stainless hardware from galling and welding, and works on general automotive nuts and bolts well.

Watching this, as my tin is getting low as well.

thermite · Nov 5, 2020

gmach10 said:
Remembered a reply someone posted on here before regarding Never Seize. He said, "I get that shit on me when I order it"!

Yahbut... "ON" is only the half of it. It gets inta yer food & drink.

Upside of the downside is if you have been using it all yer life you can save a ton of money year-in, year-out on cheaper single-ply bum-fodder.

Street · Nov 6, 2020

Depends on what your doing if you use Copper anitseize or Nickel version.

Copper does not suit all applications, as it can add to the corrosion of iron in certain environments....
we use this one SS-30™ Anti-Seize & Thread Lubricant | Jet-Lube

and also the loctite nickel one.

UncleFrank · Nov 6, 2020

Bill D said:
I need to buy another jar of antisieze. My old tin with a brush top is almost used up. For general use spark plugs, battery terminals, exhaust pipes what is recommended these days. I know some is called sensor safe for O2 sensors etc on cars. High nickel, copper, not stated or what. My existing jar was found 30 years ago half full washed up on the beach and I can not read the printing to get a brand. It is better then what I had bought before. I think the overall color on the can is a copper background color.
Bill D

Make sure whatever you buy is compatible with your application, ie, your oxygen sensors.

Some brands of that stuff outgasses at high temp and can REALLY screw you up. We tested some we had laying around, don't remember the brand, on some high temp composite tooling material test panels and ruined them.

I would probably buy whatever was safe for my most sensitive application and use it for everything just to be safe.

Mark Rand · Nov 6, 2020

For applications that don't need high electrical conductivity, why not use MoS2?

David Utidjian · Nov 6, 2020

Lately I have been using one of those anti-seize crayons (think lipstick) from Loc-Tite. Seems less messy than brush-cap method.

As far as type of anti-seize... well... take a look at this table: Anti Seize Lubricants products - Grainger Industrial Supply
Seems there should be something in there that would suit your application to perfection.

-DU-

eKretz · Nov 6, 2020

JST said:
I've used the graphite type for a long time, and have no complaints, but I understand it is not recommended for some things (not sure what they are). It does seem to effectively prevent stainless hardware from galling and welding, and works on general automotive nuts and bolts well.

Watching this, as my tin is getting low as well.

I got a can of this "Moly-Lit" antiseize inside a toolbox I bought, been using it ever since. It's pretty good stuff. I believe it's a graphite and molybdenum disulfide mix. I use that on high temp and shop-related stuff. I still use the silver Permatex stuff on most household things.

Anti-Seize Technology 12018 Anti Seize,Moly Paste,20Oz,Brush Top Can 815443010758 | eBay

pieterb · Nov 6, 2020

We almost always use Loctite LB8013 (N7000) on thread connections (all metals and temperatures). never had an issue with it.

Phil in Montana · Nov 6, 2020

Go down to Cat@ and buy a can, but bring a big sack of money...Phil

texasgeartrain · Nov 28, 2020

This link lists a variety of anti-seize from Loctite. Clicking each one you can see some specs and application on them.

Anti-Seize Compounds - Henkel Adhesives

Anti-sieze compound types and uses

Diamond

Diamond

Stainless

Titanium

Stainless

Titanium

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Hot Rolled

Diamond

Diamond

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Diamond

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Plastic

Stainless

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