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    I was looking at the Eisen 30 taper but didn't proceed. Best I can determine Eisen is just a name, they make nothing. I have a HLV-H knock off branded Victor. I needed some parts, Eisen said they could get just about any part for it. Do a web search could only come up with a sales office.

    I guess my biggest concern is whether the attaching areas can take the load of a 5hp

    Tom

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    I was thinking one of the big Taiwan BP pattern heads would do the trick nicely.

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    I should have put this in the bridge port sub forum.

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    Bridgeport heads were MADE to be installed on K&T, horizontal mills. I think a 5HP head may be a bit much but, a 3 HP 40 taper BP type head would be a great addition. I have a old series 1 head that I bought for 50 bucks I intend to use with my machines. I was looking for a "cheap" 40 taper head and never found one. They are out there and some are 5HP, they just aren't in my price range!

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    I fitted a 5hp bridgeport style head onto a universal milling machine.

    The head I fitted is ISO40 taper and quill diameter is 105mm. The power downfeed gering is not much stronger then is used on a bridgeport so I would stick with the recommended no bigger then 3/8" drill for power downfeed.

    http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...enmill-267541/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    Seems to me.. that if a body wanted a vertical, they shudda bought a vertical to begin with.

    Not much POINT in buying a horizontal primarily to serve as a mount for the head off a vertical.

    If the vertical spindle is to solve the odd problem, fine. Use a lighter, cheaper, and more common one, and take more time.

    If more work requires it, or requires a heavier vertical? See point one.

    Miguel was the one asking. Prematurely.

    He hasn't yet experienced what the K&T can, or cannot do.
    I'm going to fit a B/port series 1 J head to my Victoria U2 horizontal mill and I already have 2 other vertical heads for it. Neither of them have quills, you see.

    The 3 axis geared power feeds plus the massively increased rigidity are all the reasons I need.

    I'd fit a 40 taper B/port type head except RC bought the only spare one ever known to exist in Australia (bastard).

    Oh yes I have a genuine B/port mill already plus a Deckel type toolroom mill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    You "should have put it"... on the back burner.

    Get comfortable with what you have, first.

    Got first chip off the K&T already, have you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    Seems to me.. that if a body wanted a vertical, they shudda bought a vertical to begin with.

    Not much POINT in buying a horizontal primarily to serve as a mount for the head off a vertical.

    If the vertical spindle is to solve the odd problem, fine. Use a lighter, cheaper, and more common one, and take more time.

    If more work requires it, or requires a heavier vertical? See point one.

    Miguel was the one asking. Prematurely.

    He hasn't yet experienced what the K&T can, or cannot do.
    Your first two posts were on topic and useful.
    What's up with this personal attack BS?

    Even if I die tomorrow the discussion of bp style heads for retrofit and replacement has use.

    Take it out to the flagpole...or back to OT if you have a problem with me. Otherwise let people who have something useful to say say it so people that want to learn can.

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    Rambaudi builds some seriously heavy heads.
    No drill press type quill though.
    Handwheel feed and maybe power feed.

    Worth a look...used on the bay and elsewhere.

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    Look for a series 2 Bridgeport head. 40 taper, quill with power feed, I think its 5 hp.

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    Webb machinery in Corona Ca. sells Bridgeport type heads, in R8 or 40 taper from 1 to 5 hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    Surely they were. I even thought you might man-up and run a horizontal mill!

    Foolish me!

    Nothing "personal" about it, and not an attack. Just pointing out your usual.

    You can't even organize a toolbag because the mix of metric and US is too HARD, yet you want to debate for a year about vertical heads you won't buy for a horizontal mill you have bought ....but do not plan to run?

    What is that? Another excuse for an endless inane debate?

    Back on "ignore" wit you. You may have started to give Gordo lessons, and THAT .. is scary.
    More ad hominem bullshit.
    Go ahhead, apply willful ignorance.
    You haven't had anything useful to say for the last month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    So I want to put a bport type head on my KT 2K.
    There seem to be a number of people building clones and similar units.
    Eisan, HH, Gromax, Top One...

    I'd like 40 taper spindle and at least 3 horse power...maybe 5.
    The KT is plenty stiff enough to handle it.

    I don't need variable speed because I'll put a vfd on it.

    Any one have experience with these heads?
    Recommendations, brand experience, support?
    Fit finish and balls.

    Thanks.
    PM sent......

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    I think the biggest BPs were series 2 cnc-s of 3 hp.
    I also think none of them are good for real 5 hp in action.

    An iso-40 is good for 40 hp or 25 kw.
    Vmcs use it.

    Buy an import iso40 spindle.
    Under 2000$.
    Imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanermo View Post
    I think the biggest BPs were series 2 cnc-s of 3 hp.
    The first Series II was 4 hp. Same for the CNC version. Then the changed how the HP ratings were done. The 4hp is continous and 5 HP for X minutes. All 40 taper spindles some had drawbars, most did not.
    JR

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    bridgeport series 11 would work for you. The one I have used when I was in school was 40 taper with a draw bar , Had a quill with power feed and had a 5 hp motor.

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    cinci toolmaster 1-D, 1-E or Gorton Mastermil . they sell for chump change . the toolmasters are 40 taper.
    the mastermil had every conceivable configuration , but many were 30 and 40 taper quills. the cinci gets snubbed from the fear of the dreaded collet system found only on the ancient 1-A and 1-B machines. some
    gortons had some weird collets too. the gorton was
    made by K&T , so almost seems fitting that it would belong on your milwaukee . don't forget Wells Index and
    Tree . they also sell for peanuts compared to a 'real' bpt, lagun, or alliant.

    just beware of funky tapers.

    Gorton model 1-22 MASTERMIL | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnmgcarbide View Post
    cinci toolmaster 1-D, 1-E or Gorton Mastermil . they sell for chump change . the toolmasters are 40 taper.
    the mastermil had every conceivable configuration , but many were 30 and 40 taper quills. the cinci gets snubbed from the fear of the dreaded collet system found only on the ancient 1-A and 1-B machines. some
    gortons had some weird collets too. the gorton was
    made by K&T , so almost seems fitting that it would belong on your milwaukee . don't forget Wells Index and
    Tree . they also sell for peanuts compared to a 'real' bpt, lagun, or alliant.

    just beware of funky tapers.

    Gorton model 1-22 MASTERMIL | eBay
    Cool.Id feel bad buying a whole machine just to decapitate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick Harvie View Post
    bridgeport series 11 would work for you. The one I have used when I was in school was 40 taper with a draw bar , Had a quill with power feed and had a 5 hp motor.
    I didn't realize just how different the series 1 and 2 are.
    Pretty different machines for sure.
    The 2 head looks promising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    I didn't realize just how different the series 1 and 2 are.
    Pretty different machines for sure.
    The 2 head looks promising.
    Check your PMs. BSG was trying to contact you. He has 2, Series II heads for sale!!!!!
    Geez, if it wasn't for me, most of you guys would pull your pud all day long.
    JR

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    I spent quite a bit of time looking for a 40 taper bridgeport style head to go onto our planer mill. I wound up sticking with the BP R8 head for now as we needed to get the machine back up and running after retrofitting it to CNC. The BP head is mounted to a Z-Axis with ballscrew and we made it stout enough to carry a much bigger head - we will update it once we get everything else sorted out and have some spare time in the shop. I'll be interested to see what you wind up with.


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