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    I'm looking at buying a milling machine at auction. Is Supermax a decent milling machine? The one I'm looking at is belt driven, not the variable speed model that I see a lot of. And any idea what a good price for a yc 1 1/2 v would be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblreb View Post
    I'm looking at buying a milling machine at auction. Is Supermax a decent milling machine? The one I'm looking at is belt driven, not the variable speed model that I see a lot of. And any idea what a good price for a yc 1 1/2 v would be?
    "Decent..." for what tasking is up to you.

    Have you SEEN it in person, and can you, even if you wanted to?

    Comparing specs and finding it was "suitable to your needs" as-new won't help if it has been trashed.

    "Condition, condition... " etc.

    You could have rigging-out costs, even if next stop is the scrapyard instead of your shop.

    No, I am not a big fan of auctions. If only because the waitresses are cuter in other gambling halls and Casinos.


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    Yah termite! you are for sure pissing out as the forum troll you were....but I am sure you will break into a worthless bullshit story soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donie View Post
    Yah termite! you are for sure pissing out as the forum troll you were....but I am sure you will break into a worthless bullshit story soon!
    Which one?

    The story of YOUR sad career as a failed Walter Mitty imitation chronically cold-nosing others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblreb View Post
    The one I'm looking at is belt driven, not the variable speed model that I see a lot of.
    I personally prefer the straight belt multi-pulley drives. The variable speed ones take longer to change speeds and they are noisier and more prone to wear. A lot of people like them better, but that would not be important to me for making a purchase decision.

    Never owned a Supermax, so can't say anything about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblreb View Post
    I'm looking at buying a milling machine at auction. Is Supermax a decent milling machine? The one I'm looking at is belt driven, not the variable speed model that I see a lot of. And any idea what a good price for a yc 1 1/2 v would be?
    I do have a Supermax mill. Mine was a CNC with an older Anilam controller. I converted it to a manual mill for now. I have no issues with the quality of it. Mine is the variable speed model. Also, with the CNC it has the ball type lead screws, so a +. I rate Supermax as upper import and possibly as good as a Bridgeport.
    As for any used machine, it comes down to condition. Mainly the ways. Check the ways. If fish scales or frosting, what is the percentage? Mine were real good. I bought mine in a package deal with delivery. There was a SB Heavy 10, which was worth possibly $1K at that time. I remember paying $3,500 for all with delivery. It also came with a Quick Change spindle and holders.
    I haven't kept track of prices in probably 5 years. I remember some going for $800. I would say if they ways are in good shape etc. $1500 to $2000. Maybe a bit more if Digital Read outs, also if there is tooling included.
    As for the belt speed, look into a VFD (Variable Frequency Drive). You can use that to vary the spindle speed. They are not much, say $200 for the HP motor on that mill.

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    Thanks for the replies and the information. I go to several auctions a year and have gotten some pretty good deals. I'm also looking at a Bridgeport series I cnc but the pics look like it's sitting outside and the bed is rusting. The Supermax is coming out of a working precious metals refinery that was only used for in-house equipment repair. They are off loading assets in order to gain back square footage for expansion of operations. Yes I will be able preview before bid. This is for my personal use in my shop for various projects.

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    DO NOT GO NEAR THAT BPT CNC! bsides the fact that it is beat to shit and
    rusting outside in the snow(or sand) ,that looks to be a boss-4 machine .
    @ 1979-80 they sucked when new. you could retro a new cnc, but WHY!?

    the supermax looks ok. they're standard taiwan clones and ycm is still in business. they made tons of them, so parts spares should be reasonably common. just check it thoroughly . cosmetic "ok" might hide
    a catastrophic failure within.

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    That's actually sand, it's in South Florida. But yes I agree it's most likely scrap metal. I'll be checking it out tomorrow morning.

    More pics of the Supermax.

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    If that refinery is still in business, I'd try to talk to whoever was running that mill. No better way to find out the story on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard newman View Post
    If that refinery is still in business, I'd try to talk to whoever was running that mill. No better way to find out the story on it.
    True that. Looks like a good basic mill. Check the ways, though. Grasp the table and try and push front to back. Same side to side. I'd guess acme threads so a bit of movement is OK. Say, 1/16 possibly a bit more.

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    Whatever mill you're buying you need one with a power feed and RPT on the long travel as a minimum. Power plus RPT in all three modes is nice. Hand winding gets boring pretty quickly.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblreb View Post
    The Supermax is coming out of a working precious metals refinery that was only used for in-house equipment repair. They are off loading assets in order to gain back square footage for expansion of operations. Yes I will be able preview before bid. This is for my personal use in my shop for various projects.
    Precious metals refineries just do not "do" a great deal of machine work.

    EVEN if.. you have to add power (not CNC) to at least one axis, you could find a Helluva deal as to good remaining condition. Most especially if they bought it NEW, not used, themselves.

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    Somebody bought the Bridgeport for $275. About 100 more than I think it's worth in scrap metal. Maybe they needed parts.

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    Well I wasn't doing too bad besides paying a little more for it than I wanted. Then I blew a tire on the trailer then dumped the miller off the trailer, now I have a 2 tons of scrap!

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    All 3 wheels shattered, the cross shaft broke off one end, levers for feed worm and feed worm speed broke off, on off forward/reverse switch smashed.

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    The head was forced to rotate so something is broken in there too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblreb View Post
    The head was forced to rotate so something is broken in there too
    Man sorry to hear that! As gump said; shit happens.

    Sometimes we just have to turn the other cheek, sounds like your trailer was not rated for the load?












    Did you take pictures of the mess?

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    Also I just wanted to warn you! There are members here who won’t be as understanding as others, your probably gonna get some hate mail/scorning over this! But fear not, we all make mistakes and your not alone!

    I hope you can salvage your money back in parts, it’s definitely not a total loss, if you were near Ohio I would be interested in the head personally

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    Sorry to hear that. If you are going to part it out could you post pictures? I have a Supermax, the parts could fit mine. I could use the quill lock and feed wheel among other things.


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