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    I just bought a carrcol jamison lathe, I cant find a model number on it. but the serial number is 993. from what i read that means its a pretty early lathe. I will post pics shortly. I was wondering if due to the early serial number if there is some place that people have accumulated serial numbers and know who or where the oldest one known to exist is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnshop View Post
    I just bought a carrcol jamison lathe, I cant find a model number on it. but the serial number is 993. from what i read that means its a pretty early lathe. I will post pics shortly. I was wondering if due to the early serial number if there is some place that people have accumulated serial numbers and know who or where the oldest one known to exist is.
    They were not top-end lathes, nor ever developed the populist tribe of fans as South Bend did. Higher than average percentage have most probably been smelted over time, so you'll be fortunate to find even a dozen or two other minders of them in the present day.

    Not a slam - just the way it worked out in a once crowded and fiercely competitive marketplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnshop View Post
    I just bought a carrol jamison lathe, I cant find a model number on it. but the serial number is 993. from what i read that means its a pretty early lathe. I will post pics shortly. I was wondering if due to the early serial number if there is some place that people have accumulated serial numbers and know who or where the oldest one known to exist is.


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    So after a couple years I am finally getting to work on this lathe again. It didn't have a motor when I bought it. Which is part of why I got it so cheap. I am just trying to decide if I should go with a VFD or not and what HP and RPM motor to go with.

    Any one have any ideas what I should go with?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnshop View Post
    Any one have any ideas what I should go with?
    Go with a camera and post some pictures!

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    Need to know lathe size to tell you motor size. Pics please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Behner View Post
    Need to know lathe size to tell you motor size. Pics please
    Here are some pictures. It's tucked in behind some stuff so they are not the best I assume it to be about 13 ish by 40 swing

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    Edit. (At least a 1 h.p)
    I couldn't edit previous post on my phone.

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    South Bend Lathe Works - Publication Reprints | VintageMachinery.org

    You need r.p.m and pully size to get correct speed and torque.
    Go to link and find a similar sized South Bend to compare to and get motor size.
    The south bend forum guys here on P.M. may have more information

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    As near as I can tell this is the closest I can see but none of them have a motor mounted like want mine has (I am sure it was retrofit at some point)

    However this picture only shows 3 options for belt placement and mine has 4.



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    At age 14 I was working as a grease monkey in an automotive repair shop, and had graduated to working on small engines. I had watched the garage owner turn armatures on his Carrol Jamison lathe. While the owner was gone, I needed a simple brass bushing. I switched on the lathe, drilled the bushing bore, turned the outside, and cut it off. When he returned, he asked where I got the bushing. When I told him I made it on the lathe, he simply shook his head and walked away. His companion later told me that she had expected an explosion from him, as the lathe was his personal turf. That incident was near the beginning of a long and successful mechanical career. The lathe looked just like the one shown in the thread. It had an overhead flat belt drive with a wooden lever that one reached up to clutch the drive in and out.

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    If you measured your lathe and measured at 14 inch for the swing it may be the 13 inch swing lathe .
    The 14 inch pictured has An actual swing of 15.5 inches.
    The 13 inch lathes on vintage machinery has 4 step pully. That may be what your lathe is. 13 inch with 14 inches of actual clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mllud22 View Post
    If you measured your lathe and measured at 14 inch for the swing it may be the 13 inch swing lathe .
    The 14 inch pictured has An actual swing of 15.5 inches.
    The 13 inch lathes on vintage machinery has 4 step pully. That may be what your lathe is. 13 inch with 14 inches of actual clearance.
    Ok that makes sense. As you could see from the pictures my measurements were crude since I was in a bit of a hurry. I looked at all of the pictures in the link that was posted and didn't see what you describe. Can you please post that particular pic/link?

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    Wrong link.
    I went to the vintage machinery link I posted earlier and downloaded the 14"pfd and it also shows a 4 step pulley.
    Thanks to the guys that share these files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mllud22 View Post
    Wrong link.
    I went to the vintage machinery link I posted earlier and downloaded the 14"pfd and it also shows a 4 step pulley.
    Thanks to the guys that share these files.
    Yes. Still not exactly the same build as what I have. I suppose it's possible that no 2 machine were exactly alike and they could have the double back gear on one but not another as a bolt on option that could be added or removed.

    Thanks for the help.

    Shawn

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    VintageMachinery.org | Welcome
    I'm working on a phone.
    Here is a picture of the 14 inch 4 step . Hope the picture works. My phone doesn't allow preview or edit.

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    I believe these lathes could have been ordered to customers needs and your lathe has had a lot of years that things could have been wrapped out.
    It looks like a good lathe. Install a motor and proceed with care. The publication reprints show spindle speeds. You should be able to figure motor rpm's and pully size from those spec's
    Good luck and enjoy your lathe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mllud22 View Post
    I believe these lathes could have been ordered to customers needs and your lathe has had a lot of years that things could have been wrapped out.
    It looks like a good lathe. Install a motor and proceed with care. The publication reprints show spindle speeds. You should be able to figure motor rpm's and pully size from those spec's
    Good luck and enjoy your lathe.
    Thanks. And I will do. When I picked it up I had good intentions. And then it got pushed back for more important things. Now I have come into some simple jobs I can make some money on so it it's more of a priority.

    I will post pictures when it's up and running and all cleaned up.

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