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    ever been to a slaughterhouse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarbideBob View Post
    Due to all this no pet adoption here. Shelters closed up like a drum.
    Sad as one has passed and we could use a new one or two new guy or gals in this time.
    Bob
    Sorry to tell you this. But you let that information out into the universe. Within a few
    weeks one will find their way to your front door. You don't get to choose the breed, size or
    sex. They just choose you.

    EVERY time we've decided it was time to get another one, one just showed up. Every damn time.

    I've never had the luxury of picking one out at the pound, ever. The only time I've ever been to
    the pound is to bail one of my own out of dog jail. Its not that I never wanted to go get a dog there,
    but I never had the opportunity, one just showed up before I made it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rons View Post
    This morning there was a long line in front of a food store I go to. The expected wait time was 1 1/2 hours to get in.
    It's finally happened, all those news programs over the years showing people in other countries standing in lines for food. Everybody is at par now.

    This guy was helped by good Samaritans outside a Krogers:



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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    Does anyone feel that these practices might skew the stats?

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    The amount of Americans who are reported to have died from the Coronavirus is based on a CDC coding system that will “result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.”



    A new ICD code was established to keep track of Coronavirus deaths.
    The U07.1 code will be used for death by Coronavirus infection.
    However, there’s another secondary code, U07.2, “for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available,” the CDC guidelines read. . . .
    I doubt things will be much skewed.

    Not many people (until now) show up in a hospital with a fever and a dry cough for several days, suddently have trouble breathing, and then drown in their own lungs due to a cytokine storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderjet View Post

    I'll try to be a better American and not judge a country that just ruined the world economy with their 2nd century societal practices.
    so the chinese ruined the world economy?

    in what way is any, let alone the world, economy ruined?
    the stock market is not the economy, in fact it has nothing to do with the economy.

    and if there is anybody to put the blame on, it is not the chinese, but the morons that decided that they could deal with it much better than the chinese could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobw View Post
    Sorry to tell you this. But you let that information out into the universe. Within a few
    weeks one will find their way to your front door. You don't get to choose the breed, size or
    sex. They just choose you.

    EVERY time we've decided it was time to get another one, one just showed up. Every damn time.

    I've never had the luxury of picking one out at the pound, ever. The only time I've ever been to
    the pound is to bail one of my own out of dog jail. Its not that I never wanted to go get a dog there,
    but I never had the opportunity, one just showed up before I made it there.
    Shouldn't be the least BIT of "mystery" as to how that works, or that you are under protective "overwatch" should there?

    People have been sayin' for thousands of years that "life's a Bitch".

    Only natural she'd be takin' care of her pups.

    The dogs as well, usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderjet View Post
    I don't eat animals that are boiled alive.......That's my policy.

    I know in your mind it's fine to conflate a chicken with a dog, that's your view. Who am I to judge.

    Were I come from, we don't raise dogs to eat them. We spend hundreds, if not thousands on their care and well being. We treat them as family members.

    The thought of dropping a dog into boiling water alive repulses me. Just a foible, I guess.

    I'll try to be a better American and not judge a country that just ruined the world economy with their 2nd century societal practices. I'm sure their ways are WAY more enlightened than mine.

    BTW,
    What brand of BBQ sauce do you enjoy with your boiled puppy?
    Sweet baby Ray's?
    I love my dogs. They sleep with me, and I'd sooner kick my wife out of bed than one of them.

    I was raised the exact same as you.

    I worked at one of the best vets offices in the state, with boarded surgeons, internal medicine specialists, neurologists, etc.

    I dumped 10 grand in to a dog, and that was with significant professional discounts.

    Hell, I was bit by a rabid dog trying to treat it, prior to it being discovered it had rabies.

    I just respect that other people weren't raised with the same values and experiences that I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteM View Post
    I doubt things will be much skewed.

    Not many people (until now) show up in a hospital with a fever and a dry cough for several days, suddently have trouble breathing, and then drown in their own lungs due to a cytokine storm.
    That's just it. Anybody dying outside of a hospital, without a pre-existing condition like cancer, will need an autopsy still. The lungs of a covid patient will bring down the differential to what? Two things? Pneumonia or covid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobw View Post
    Sorry to tell you this. But you let that information out into the universe. Within a few
    weeks one will find their way to your front door. You don't get to choose the breed, size or
    sex. They just choose you.

    EVERY time we've decided it was time to get another one, one just showed up. Every damn time.
    True dat!

    My re-entry into the world of machining (remember machining?) began when I jokingly emailed a friend (who still works in the trade) asking him if he could pick up a free MONSTER lathe for me. Two months later I had a free lathe, mill and all sorts of tooling and material. Each time I have needed another piece, I just put it out to the universe and it shows up, usually free. Most recently it was a free O/A torch setup, welding table, 4x6 bandsaw and truck full of material and fasteners. Ask and ye shall receive (so be careful what you ask for).

    Back to this thread, that was a real nice little break we had from all the yelling, name calling and unsupported "facts".

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    Does anyone feel that these practices might skew the stats?

    quote}

    The amount of Americans who are reported to have died from the Coronavirus is based on a CDC coding system that will “result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.”



    A new ICD code was established to keep track of Coronavirus deaths.
    The U07.1 code will be used for death by Coronavirus infection.
    However, there’s another secondary code, U07.2, “for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available,” the CDC guidelines read.
    “Because laboratory test results are not typically reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.”
    This is a huge problem.
    “The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID- 19 being the underlying cause more often than not,” the guidelines read.
    “COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” CDC guidelines issued March 24 read. “Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
    “If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
    the official @CDCgov guidance for coding COVID-related deaths is as follows: any death where the disease “caused or is *assumed* to have caused or *contributed to* death.” Confirmed lab tests are not required… [end quote]




    I already told you, it is a plot made up so we can come and take your guns

    How deadly was the flu in 2019? - Graphically Speaking
    one representation

    Peak flu 1600 cases a week for the worst week.

    1300 died yesterday

    It is not the flu

    It is not made up

    oh, and half the population has been distanced for two weeks, try seeing what the flu numbers are if you did that

    errors will be there, in the decimal places

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    More liberal drivel

    Fatal flaws - Covid-19’s death toll appears higher than official figures suggest | Graphic detail | The Economist

    [psst sarcasm alert]

    turn off javascript if it is paywalled

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    so the chinese ruined the world economy?

    in what way is any, let alone the world, economy ruined?
    There will be BILLIONS of people that will lose their livelihood over this deal.

    There will be MILLIONS of folks that will starve to DEATH because of the Chicom Government's decision to cover this up.

    There will be TRILLIONS of dollars in wages, savings, home values, retirement accounts, and future profits that are VAPORIZED due the fact that the chicoms wanted to let folks travel for a festival.

    THAT'S the way.

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    where did all that money go?
    where did it come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    The Indians would apparently feel the same about that rare steak you are eating

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderjet View Post

    “Just to be clear here:
    If your culture includes boiling dogs alive and then selling the meat to your "customers", you don't get ANY sympathy from me. You get ridicule and derision for being a terrible human being”.

    My Uncle was a missionary in South Pacific. The locals were headhunters historically reforming supposedly in the 20th century. Well turns out my Uncle regularly ate what the natives ate which included dog and Bat which was a delicacy. The chief ate Bat which was boiled in its own blood used. My Uncle claimed the Chiefs wife served the cooked bat and did so topless as they lived that way and the bat was a home run.

    Uncle would never show disrespect for the locals and especially not the Chief. Places are different. Possum is good food for some as one example. I could give you several other things and even not well known meat from cattle and pigs but I will not.

    Indians got their dogs from Europeans. They were welcome and were very protective of the Indian tribes. One story about the Comanches was from soldiers who made a surprise attack on a village. The dogs fought as hard against the soldiers as did the braves and their women and to the death.

    Those Comanches were very tough and did not play at all. The soldiers were drained and disturbed by what they wrought on the tribe including children some even white. The soldiers were tired and haunted if they were not experienced Indian hunters. That is the way some related their experiences. The dogs were interesting because they protected their owners.

    I have not heard anything about boiling dog alive anywhere. The Indian tribes I have read about and spoken to did not say they ate dogs yet they did eat horse meat. It does not mean none ate dog meat it just means I do not know they claimed to have done that.

    From the trenches of isolating at home and socially distancing best wishes to everyone and keep safe.

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    not the indians gus referred to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    not the indians gus referred to.
    Aye if you mean "Hindu" will not eat beef - nor even see it kilt - say "Hindu" not "Indian".

    Fifteen to twenty percent of the population of "modern" (who told THAT lie?) "India" is Muslim.

    For them, beef is OK, pork, not.

    Mutton/Lamb, poultry, eggs, fish, milk, tofu, yogurts and cheeses - rabbit, maybe? - even INSECTS? - might bridge SOME cultural gaps, but then there are also a LOT of fairly strict vegetarians... etc.

    Storal of the morey? If yah find yerself having to "feed a multitude", offend the fewest among them? Good preparation if yah can lay-on an all vegetarian spread. Potatoes, yams, taro, etc WHOLE cereal grains and "pulses" (peas, beans, lentils, seeds, nuts, etc.). are your suits-everyone high-protein sources. Mushrooms & fungus only "maybe".

    NO sentient creature "murdered", nobody goes hungry or wants to execute their version of infidel for his "blasphemy".

    Folks as miss their choice of meats can make it up some OTHER meal.

    2CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhoopee View Post
    True dat!

    My re-entry into the world of machining (remember machining?) began when I jokingly emailed a friend (who still works in the trade) asking him if he could pick up a free MONSTER lathe for me. Two months later I had a free lathe, mill and all sorts of tooling and material. Each time I have needed another piece, I just put it out to the universe and it shows up, usually free. Most recently it was a free O/A torch setup, welding table, 4x6 bandsaw and truck full of material and fasteners. Ask and ye shall receive (so be careful what you ask for).

    Back to this thread, that was a real nice little break we had from all the yelling, name calling and unsupported "facts".

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming....
    please do put a link to the way you get in touch with the universe, there are some items i wouldn't mind finding their way to my shop

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    ever been to a slaughterhouse?
    In 2nd grade and it was live action I will tell you. Shoot em and process them noise and all. Not growing up on a farm it was shocking. At the end of the tour the slaughterhouse employee showing us this important process took us to a refrigerated room where one finished product in their individual packages were on a stopped conveyor belt. The guy summed up the tour and pointed out the sausages I think they had and asked did anyone want some?

    I passed yet a couple friends said sure and ate them right there. I did not eat any bacon, hamburgers, or sausage for a whole week. The tour was very educational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    not the indians gus referred to.
    Oh i’am bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanruth View Post
    please do put a link to the way you get in touch with the universe, there are some items i wouldn't mind finding their way to my shop
    Be careful what you open the door to.

    Safe bet our well-blessed Brother hasn't shat his celestial messkit raging on the political leader-slip (or LACK thereof..) of some OTHER Brother's whole damned country and THEIR choice of whom is elected to b-lead it.

    Sure as shit I ain't prayin' to "the universe" "cargo cult" style on MY hook!

    Y'all have the LEAST idea how hard it could be to dispose of mini-nukes, pyrotechnics, toxins, rabid pet weasels, angry skunks, (the senders, not the gifts). pizenous reptiles (same again..), and nasty chemicals sech "generous" folks wanna make yah a gift of?



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