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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post
    This thread has turned to Politicking for and against Trump.. Not about the corona virus any more..
    It has out lived its usefulness.

    Hen's chatter at best....and no eggs to be found.

    Nothing about surface grinders ,mills or lathes so Kill it. Take it out behind the barn and shoot it.
    Eh one is not forced to read it or take part in it. Besides is anyone thinking that those who take part are partly only innocents? I think most everyone sees this done all over our site. Machinists are opinionated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    Machinists are opinionated.
    Are not ! Potatohead !

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    Yeah, I hide my head under the pillow when I'm afraid too. But then, I'm not leader of the free world either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post
    *This is not Trumps drug,,He knows little .....
    Stop Right There! (meat loaf aday)

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    JC! Will this thread ever die??? It's been a political bashing for so many pages now... It's frustrating to see this get so many 'hits' when it has been off topic forever (it seems) now...

    * I know I have the option to just not read it, but it would be better IMO if it was closed. There is too much bullshit and people that might google covid19 or cornavirus will see this and think "what a bunch of assclowns"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    Machinists are opinionated.
    I am convinced you are wrong, definitely wrong. Just my hunch.

    dee
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    actually the longer it goes on the more comes to light.
    there may be some banter but theres some good info being put forth also.

    of course its political....its a national and global pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1974 View Post
    JC!
    * I know I have the option to just not read it, but it would be better IMO if it was closed. There is too much bullshit and people that might google covid19 or cornavirus will see this and think "what a bunch of assclowns"
    I have an idea, petition the WH to stop the daily political charade, so this thread can miraculously disappear, when it warms up.


    dee
    ;-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1974 View Post
    There is too much bullshit and people that might google covid19 or cornavirus will see this and think "what a bunch of assclowns"
    I think 99% of people that find this forum already think that, regardless of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    Machinists are opinionated.
    Hell no, I completely disagree, what kind of a fool says such a thing, ridiculous

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    Best in the world.
    I am happy to see we have held our standing thanks to fast action by the government.

    img_5263.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1974 View Post
    JC! Will this thread ever die??? It's been a political bashing for so many pages now... It's frustrating to see this get so many 'hits' when it has been off topic forever (it seems) now...

    * I know I have the option to just not read it, but it would be better IMO if it was closed. There is too much bullshit and people that might google covid19 or cornavirus will see this and think "what a bunch of assclowns"

    Boob tube logic / intelligence is like the weather report.
    Is says clear today and only 10% chance of rain
    I am an old salt and can read the clouds
    We walk outside and see a big black cloud and feel a sudden chill breeze.
    We are likely to get caught in rain, says I.
    Janie says lets go, I just read the weather report
    Yes, we came rushing home in the rain…

    For shame our 5 mile hike was only about one.

    A lot of Boob Tube logic in this thread...

    What about chickens, why do they chatter so much.. Let's change this thread to be about Chickens..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trboatworks View Post
    Best in the world.
    I am happy to see we have held our standing thanks to fast action by the government.

    img_5263.jpg
    Are you tired of winning yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    i have no hate towards a medication.
    i question why a politician would push one so hard without evidence of its effectivness.

    in no way shape or form did DJT come up with the idea, had been tried by others but without conclusive evidence it actually helped....the ppl that got better may have gotten better anyway without it.

    my "kind" Scotty, would like to "do no harm"....no one likes this.
    My concern is that for political and other reasons some are trying to suppress a possible life-saving treatment based on misinformation about side effects. The side effects are a real possibility but there is a great deal of experience based on millions of people having taken this drug. Most side effects are mild, the cardiac issue is rare and preventable with proper monitoring and the eye issue is not seen in short-term use but only after several years of taking the drug.

    What we have here is a balance scale, with suffocation and likely death on one side and life with a moderate risk of side effects on the other. These are not normal times and if a patient facing a high probability of death and his doctor both wish to try a therapy that has yet to undergo a double-blind test it is their choice, and theirs alone to make.

    If you were sick with this virus and nearing the stage where you might need a ventilator that is not guaranteed to save your life would YOU be willing to participate in a study where you had a 50% chance of receiving the drug and a 50% chance of receiving a placebo? Would you want to wait months for such tests to be completed?

    I'd opt for the drug and so I think would most in that situation. Where I see so much hypocrisy is that on the one hand people claim a high mortality rate which means conventional treatments aren't working well and on the other hand fight tooth and nail to discourage a treatment that doctors around the world claim success with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    actually the longer it goes on the more comes to light.
    there may be some banter but theres some good info being put forth also.

    of course its political....its a national and global pandemic.
    "...its a national and global pandemic" and that's why it shouldn't be political.

    Everything in the USA now seems to be political.

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    You have got to be kidding me ... are these morons suicidal ? Half a trillion for the Donald to hand out to his buddies in real estate but they close down testing in the middle of an epidemic ?

    The mind boggles. It just boggles

    We're living in the sunset of the world. The US world, anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1974 View Post
    JC! Will this thread ever die??? It's been a political bashing for so many pages now... It's frustrating to see this get so many 'hits' when it has been off topic forever (it seems) now...

    * I know I have the option to just not read it, but it would be better IMO if it was closed. There is too much bullshit and people that might google covid19 or cornavirus will see this and think "what a bunch of assclowns"
    I actually think its good, people need to vent and be it good or bad its been a good read.
    Yes lots of negative comments and some real good ones. There will always be 2 sides on every subject if it remains civil I will listen to both.
    Obviously by the number of responses people are listening, venting, complaining,contributing and some only read and shake their heads.
    Hope alls well down there and lets hope we can remain friendly neighbours.

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    I know why thus thread could not go to be about chickens.

    Trump hates chickens / Trump loves chickens / chicken are bad / chickens are good.

    Love Trump / Hate trump

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    Understanding the thing:.......

    The chloroquine in the blood acts as a decoy by sucking up the virus so it can not attack and destroy our red blood cells causing us to turn blue in the face and die. This is the reason today hospitals often start a patient on hydroxychloroquine when admitted with COVID-19 like symptoms hoping to prevent the need of a ventilator in case the body can not manage the virus alone. Now the heart and brain damage being reported in some cases of COVID-19 makes sense. Low O2 levels lead to organ failure on the way to causing death.

    3.4 Validation for the effect of chloroquine phosphate

    The chemical components in chloroquine phosphate compete with the porphyrin and bind to the
    viral protein, thereby inhibiting the viral protein's attack on heme or binding to the porphyrin.
    To verify
    the effect of chloroquine phosphate on the viral molecular mechanism of action, molecular docking
    technology was accepted. The structure file of 0TX (chloroquine) was downloaded from the PDB
    database. Then molecular docking technology of Discovery-Studio 2016 was used to test the effects of
    viral proteins and chloroquine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rons View Post
    I'm still researching this one. In the meantime all I can offer is:

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    Easy one he is praying for the Salvation of California.


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