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    Default Does anyone know where to get Titanium Nitrided?

    I have a firearm part that we are seeing significant galling. The part slides along another part made of steel. We have tried anodizing but it only lasts about 250 cycles before wear-thru.

    I am reading plenty of articles and studies that are showing fantastic results in plasma nitriding of Titanium but I cannot find anyone that offers this service. I have contacted both of my QPQ guys and they both say that they've never herd of this.

    Does anyone know of a shop that offers this?

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    It would help if you list where you have already tried.
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    No need to help the ignorant here....

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    It would fill this page to list everyone I have contacted about this. That's why I was hoping to here someone that has personal knowledge about this process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPM2014 View Post
    II have contacted both of my QPQ guys and they both say that they've never herd of this.
    Quote Originally Posted by CPM2014 View Post
    It would fill this page to list everyone I have contacted about this. That's why I was hoping to here someone that has personal knowledge about this process.
    I was led to believe you contacted qty (2) people sir.......

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    If your parts wear through in 250 x then maybe titanium is no good for that application.

    Try steel

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    I heard these guys do it in-house. I don't know whether they take outside work or not. They're in Ohio. I've been happy with their cutters.
    https://www.cgstool.com/

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    Tool-Flo in Houston will do it for you if the quantity is high enough. If they won't do it for you direct, ask for a cutting tool distributor you can go thru to get it done. I've seen some gun parts that were done for Briley manufacturing several years back. Ken

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    check me if im wrong, but I think the OP is looking to Nitride titanium, not titanium nitride.

    I'm sure you've already seen this then, Nitriding of Titanium and Titanium Alloys :: Total Materia Article

    I'm not a plater so I don't know what processes are compatible with what metals, but if you're looking for low friction and wear résistance, look into Teflon impregnated nickel

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    I can't promise they do titanium, but Thermofusion in San Leandro CA has been specializing in nitriding for a long time. They have processes they claim can nitride very deep, and they do a lot of unusual materials. It's worth a phone call.

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    Are you sure you don't have a surface finish or tolerance issue?

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    I should have realized that people would get confused by the wording. I am looking to get Titanium nitride not TiN coating. PVD and DLC and the like are platings that are to thin, and do not penetrate the surface. Nitriding Titanium is not a common process, and in fact the only evidence I can find is in study white sheets from laboratory tests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Dickman View Post
    check me if im wrong, but I think the OP is looking to Nitride titanium, not titanium nitride.

    I'm sure you've already seen this then, Nitriding of Titanium and Titanium Alloys :: Total Materia Article

    I'm not a plater so I don't know what processes are compatible with what metals, but if you're looking for low friction and wear résistance, look into Teflon impregnated nickel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post

    Thanks but that is TiN not the nitriding of Titanium.

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    Perhaps here:
    Ion Nitriding, Plasma Nitriding, Salt Bath Heat Treating, & Steam Treating by Sun Steel Treating - Detroit Area, Michigan - Sun Steel Treating - Detroit Area, Michigan
    I don't know about your base material as I do not work in it so a wild ass guess but they are good quality source.
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    Ion Nitriding- There is a place in Conroe, TX that does Ion Nitriding. Used to go by the name Magnum Metal Treating or Magnum Heat treat. Been several years since I've used them. They may do ion nitriding with titanium. Ion Nitriding is some pretty hard stuff!

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    I realize this is not what you asked for, but we used Tiodize coating on CP titanium parts to prevent galling. Ya might touch bases with them. Just a thought.
    Tiodize

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