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Does hardened 300-series stainless exist or not? Need 1/16" round stock

summersab

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Okay, so, I'm confused. Not too long ago, I bought some 316 stainless steel strapping from SideCuts:
316 / 316L FULL HARD CRSS .020 X 1-1/25" Stainless Steel Coil - Heat: 606A - Tag: 675251
The product is listed as being "full hard," and having worked with it since receiving it, I can definitely tell you that it is. Now, I'm needing a 1/16 (or thereabouts - 1mm to 1.5mm will work) round stock in either 304 or 316 stainless. However, after doing a good bit of searching, I can't find anyone that sells such a product in a temper other than annealed. What's more, a few shops have material info pages that echo what I see on Wikipedia:
Due to their crystalline structure austenitic steels are not hardenable by heat treatment and are essentially non-magnetic.

So . . . does hardened 304/316 steel exist, or no? If so, where would I find some small-diameter round stock?

Thanks!
 
Awesome - thanks for the responses! Looks like the key phrases I needed to use were "spring temper 304." Wire will do just fine. Much appreciated!
 
17-4 is as corrosion resistant as 316 and can be hardened. Plus the tensile strength far exceeds 316 and 304. In my shop I cut 100 times more SS than any other material.
 
If you just need hard and corrosion resistant, 14 Gauge "stainless" bicycle spokes are the stuff you want, readily available in small qty's. If you dig you can even find them long enough for penny farthing wheels and there a great source of harder stainless wire in short lengths reasonably straight.

1.6mm 316 stainless TIG filler wire is also readily available, pretty hard and works well for some of these kinda tasks.
 
300-series stainless steels are hardened by 'cold-working' processes.

Hi Summersab,

Martensitic stainless steels are heat treated, whereas austenitic stainless steels (such as the 300 series) are hardened by 'cold-working'. Here is a summary about the differences between ferritic, austenitic and martensitic stainless steels : https://www.accu.co.uk/en/p/112-difference-between-ferritic-austenitic-and-martensitic-stainless-steels

Both 316 stainless steel (also known as A4 stainless steel) and 304 stainless steel (also referred to as A2 stainless steel) are available in different classes depending on how much the stainless steel has been 'cold-worked'. There is further information about this in the Engineer's Guide to Austenitic Stainless Steel on the Accu Website: The Engineer's Guide to Austenitic Stainless Steel - Accu.

Zara
 
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Okay, so, I'm confused. Not too long ago, I bought some 316 stainless steel strapping from SideCuts:
316 / 316L FULL HARD CRSS .020 X 1-1/25" Stainless Steel Coil - Heat: 606A - Tag: 675251
The product is listed as being "full hard," and having worked with it since receiving it, I can definitely tell you that it is. Now, I'm needing a 1/16 (or thereabouts - 1mm to 1.5mm will work) round stock in either 304 or 316 stainless. However, after doing a good bit of searching, I can't find anyone that sells such a product in a temper other than annealed. What's more, a few shops have material info pages that echo what I see on Wikipedia:


So . . . does hardened 304/316 steel exist, or no? If so, where would I find some small-diameter round stock?

Thanks!

cold rolled or cold drawn wire is common. tensile strength is much higher and its harder (also harder to machine) . but its not like its 65 rockwell c scale hard
 
Hi Summersab,

Martensitic stainless steels are heat treated, whereas austenitic stainless steels (such as the 300 series) are hardened by 'cold-working'. Here is a summary about the differences between ferritic, austenitic and martensitic stainless steels : https://www.accu.co.uk/en/p/112-difference-between-ferritic-austenitic-and-martensitic-stainless-steels

Both 316 stainless steel (also known as A4 stainless steel) and 304 stainless steel (also referred to as A2 stainless steel) are available in different classes depending on how much the stainless steel has been 'cold-worked'. There is further information about this in the Engineer's Guide to Austenitic Stainless Steel on the Accu Website: The Engineer's Guide to Austenitic Stainless Steel - Accu.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to get in contact.

Zara
www.Accu.co.uk

Accu specialises in the development of fasteners and hardware for use in complex sub-assemblies. We have a range of over 500,000 precision engineering components for a variety of industrial applications. In addition to fasteners and precision lead screws, we also have a range of belts and pulleys, precision gears, rotary bearings, machine tooling and cutters.
This sounds like borderline spamming even if the information wasnt off by miles. Our ”Zara” was spa...posting today links to accu.co.uk website over eevblog forums too.
 
Hi Summersab,

Martensitic stainless steels are heat treated, whereas austenitic stainless steels (such as the 300 series) are hardened by 'cold-working'. Here is a summary about the differences between ferritic, austenitic and martensitic stainless steels : https://www.accu.co.uk/en/p/112-difference-between-ferritic-austenitic-and-martensitic-stainless-steels

Both 316 stainless steel (also known as A4 stainless steel) and 304 stainless steel (also referred to as A2 stainless steel) are available in different classes depending on how much the stainless steel has been 'cold-worked'. There is further information about this in the Engineer's Guide to Austenitic Stainless Steel on the Accu Website: The Engineer's Guide to Austenitic Stainless Steel - Accu.

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to get in contact.

Zara
www.Accu.co.uk

Accu specialises in the development of fasteners and hardware for use in complex sub-assemblies. We have a range of over 500,000 precision engineering components for a variety of industrial applications. In addition to fasteners and precision lead screws, we also have a range of belts and pulleys, precision gears, rotary bearings, machine tooling and cutters.

Spammer....
 
Any spring vendor will have full hard 302/304 SS spring wire on hand in that size. They by in bulk from steel warehouses that deal with spring wire materials.
 
Hi,

I was trying to give useful information to clarify what products listed as 'full hard' stainless steel could be.
I realise that it is generic stainless steel information, but at the same time I do not sell steel, so I did not consider it to be 'spam' because it was relevant to the question.

I'm sorry that you did not find my post useful and I hope you understand where I was coming from.

Zara
 
Hi,

I was trying to give useful information to clarify what products listed as 'full hard' stainless steel could be.
I realise that it is generic stainless steel information, but at the same time I do not sell steel, so I did not consider it to be 'spam' because it was relevant to the question.

I'm sorry that you did not find my post useful and I hope you understand where I was coming from.

Zara

No, your nothing but a leaching spammer.

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