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    Default English projection?

    I’m working with a machine drawing from the UK dated 1957.
    At the top of the drawing it says “ENGLISH PROJECTION“. Can anyone out there explain what that term means exactly? I tried a search, but haven’t found anything yet.
    Thanks in advance.

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    Try looking up "1st angle" and "3rd angle" projection. pretty sure its referring to the way a part is rotated in the different views of the drawing.

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    Backwards assed. Traditionally views are rotated using the "Salad Bowl" technique. English projection is the opposite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Dickman View Post
    Backwards assed. Traditionally views are rotated using the "Salad Bowl" technique. English projection is the opposite
    Still a salad bowl, just with the opening away from you.

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    Thank you for the replies. Given the fact that the term didn’t come up in any searches, I assume it is a little obscure and outdated?
    Along with ENGLISH PROJECTION, it also says (not true angle). I looked at the 3rd vs 1st angle info as suggested, so I think I’m closer to understanding it, but then again....this is only the second machine drawing that I’ve tried to digest, so a little slow on the uptake.

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    Some info for you: U.S. vs. European Manufacturing Drawings | Vista Industrial Products, Inc.
    In today's world most drawings will have the small cone showing what projection you have. In Europe 1st angle (ISO) is used most of the time while in the US third angle projection is in the majority.
    Since you have a drawing from the time when the UK was not metric - most likely third angle.
    You should be able to confirm the projection by just looking at the drawing.

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    English projection?

    You mean ''correct projection''

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    English projection?

    You mean ''correct projection''
    I suppose, coming from someone who drives on the wrong side of the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Dickman View Post
    I suppose, coming from someone who drives on the wrong side of the road.
    In this country that is a bit of a sore subject at the moment ……….a certain US citizen ;- Anne Sacoolas

    More here Death of Harry Dunn - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    In this country that is a bit of a sore subject at the moment ……….a certain US citizen ;- Anne Sacoolas

    More here Death of Harry Dunn - Wikipedia
    Yup, she should not have been driving.

    I had a friend that was an English expat, told me I should take a vacation
    over there, and rent a car...no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan from Oakland View Post
    Try looking up "1st angle" and "3rd angle" projection. pretty sure its referring to the way a part is rotated in the different views of the drawing.
    Yup..."2nd angle projection"
    and in ozzy land "-2nd angle projection" … it's upside down bass ackward English projection.

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    Could you guys PLEASE quit fooling around, dithering over first vs. third angle projection.

    And get right to the HEART of the matter, should the drawings have inch, or metric dimensions??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    Could you guys PLEASE quit fooling around, dithering over first vs. third angle projection.

    And get right to the HEART of the matter, should the drawings have inch, or metric dimensions??
    Neither - Cubit

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    Hey, different people choose to do things different ways. Drawing, driving, whatever. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EPAIII View Post
    Hey, different people choose to do things different ways. Drawing, driving, whatever. Get over it.
    Sounds good as long as everyone does not try doing it all different ways, at the same time.

    "Watch out, radio says some idiot is driving the wrong way on the expressway."

    "It's not just one idiot, it's ALL of them!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    Sounds good as long as everyone does not try doing it all different ways, at the same time.

    "
    Well, it's worked so far.
    Last edited by Limy Sami; 03-02-2020 at 07:35 AM. Reason: pyto

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    Projection is wrong, it should be view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanola View Post
    Projection is wrong, it should be view.
    capture.jpg

    no, not really

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    The individual views are always correct. Its how you project from one view to another that ISO has bass ackwards.

    I have yet to find anyone who can tell me how to do old school paper and pencil projections in 1st angle.

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    You goggle searched this and found nothing of help?
    Try added a few words like "on drawings" to your search.
    german projection on drawings - Google Search

    As far as "And get right to the HEART of the matter, should the drawings have inch, or metric dimensions??"
    Maybe both so that there is no misunderstanding.?
    Bob


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