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    Looking at a purportedly Kurt vise and was wondering if anyone could help me with some info about it. Markings are D60-1 (maybe, the 0 is missing) MT6 BIW. Any info would be appreciated, thanks!

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    I could be wrong, but I believe all kurts have USA cast into the bottom. Yours looks a bit like a forgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Dickman View Post
    I could be wrong, but I believe all kurts have USA cast into the bottom. Yours looks a bit like a forgery.
    Aside from no USA casting is there anything else that makes you think this is a forgery?

    ETA: Found this thread, but it still looks different than this vise, hopefully this is genuine.
    Help me identify this vise

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    there should have been a name plate on one side or the other. Even if the plate is gone, there should be a couple rivet holes.

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    My two older D60's look like this on the bottom (this one has no nameplate):

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    Older with nameplate on left:

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    Newest with nameplate on right:

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    Quote Originally Posted by comstockfriend View Post
    My two older D60's look like this on the bottom (this one has no nameplate):

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    Older with nameplate on left:

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    Newest with nameplate on right:

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    Right on, thanks for that! So at least we know they didn't necessarily have USA on the bottom. Looks like someone modded it to add the set screw maybe?

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    I'd like to see one that also has the MT6 and BIW markings same as the other thread. If I were to get this what else should I look for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer322 View Post
    Looking at a purportedly Kurt vise and was wondering if anyone could help me with some info about it. Markings are D60-1 (maybe, the 0 is missing) MT6 BIW. Any info would be appreciated, thanks!
    I think I had one of those - a Kurt Clone for $90 new. It was very crudely made, especially where it most mattered, the slant and ball mechanism that makes a Kurt a Kurt (until the patent expired).. I tried to clean it up, with some effect, but still was hopeless. Sold it and bought a Glacern vise, which works just fine.

    For me, the giveaway is that the pads for the clamp bolts (to the table) appear to be as cast. This is one of the first things I fixed, because the as-cast surface sloped slightly, causing squirming when the vise was bolted down.

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    Comstock's second pic shows a cast surface?

    Any pics of the ball mechanism would be helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer322 View Post
    Comstock's second pic shows a cast surface?
    It's hard to tell from the photo.

    Any pics of the ball mechanism would be helpful.
    It would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Gwinn View Post
    It's hard to tell from the photo.



    It would help.
    Sure would, anyone have pics of their genuine Kurt ball mechanism?

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    Are you looking to buy this for cheap, or are just curious about the make/model? It doesn't look like a Kurt to me, unless it pre-dates my machining experience (which it could).

    YouTube

    Here is a video showing disassembly of the moving jaw. I don't recall seeing the little o-ring grooves before, but this vise looks fairly new so maybe it is/was a newer design before they discontinued this style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1974 View Post
    Are you looking to buy this for cheap, or are just curious about the make/model? It doesn't look like a Kurt to me, unless it pre-dates my machining experience (which it could).

    YouTube

    Here is a video showing disassembly of the moving jaw. I don't recall seeing the little o-ring grooves before, but this vise looks fairly new so maybe it is/was a newer design before they discontinued this style?
    Unfortunately I picked it up already, I just needed a vise. Guy guaranteed it was a genuine Kurt, I mean look at the castings... Now I'm trying to justify my purchase. Has 2.860 stamped into the flat spot there, not sure what that means...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer322 View Post
    Sure would, anyone have pics of their genuine Kurt ball mechanism?
    I don't, but the founding patent is US 2,880,638, which has a nice drawing. Get a copy via Google Patents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer322 View Post
    Unfortunately I picked it up already, I just needed a vise. Guy guaranteed it was a genuine Kurt, I mean look at the castings... Now I'm trying to justify my purchase.
    Good lord, does the fucking thing work for your needs? If yes, who cares who made it? If no, it still doesn't matter who made it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360427 View Post
    Good lord, does the fucking thing work for your needs? If yes, who cares who made it? If no, it still doesn't matter who made it.
    Why are you so angry? You know you don't have to reply...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer322 View Post
    Why are you so angry? You know you don't have to reply...
    He's not angry. It's just a kinda dumb discussion in a place that is supposed to be about machining, not collecting. One or two "Is this really a Kurt ? Seems flaky to me ..." questions would have been enough ...

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    if seller TOLD you that it was they did not lie.

    it is most certainly a curt vise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    He's not angry. It's just a kinda dumb discussion in a place that is supposed to be about machining, not collecting. One or two "Is this really a Kurt ? Seems flaky to me ..." questions would have been enough ...
    I'm sorry I forced you guys to read this and reply then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer322 View Post
    I'm sorry I forced you guys to read this and reply then
    This is "supposed" to be a forum for professional machinists. Not collectors or hobbyists. In my opinion, if we allow this type of thread to be unchecked, the forum will morph in to something it was never meant to be.


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