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    where I came from... the field I came from... billet is slang …. a part could be cast, forged, or billet... a chunk of wood could be billet... it implies nothing about strength, or size... it is just a chunk of stuff
    I also say "you all", "howdy", and "dandy".
    so.. billet is just a generic term...
    funny how the guy bitching about that says he is "professional"... also a term with no true defined value, specification, etc.
    Whores are "professionals"... that does not mean much.

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    I think he meant "jet" being banned in the forum rules and guidelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagspe208 View Post
    where I came from... the field I came from... billet is slang …. a part could be cast, forged, or billet... a chunk of wood could be billet... it implies nothing about strength, or size... it is just a chunk of stuff
    I also say "you all", "howdy", and "dandy".
    so.. billet is just a generic term...
    funny how the guy bitching about that says he is "professional"... also a term with no true defined value, specification, etc.
    Whores are "professionals"... that does not mean much.
    Someone always has to drag the whores in right.

    I was speaking professional as in profession...not professional as in behavior.

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    I always enjoy dragging in whores. Sometimes I just slow the truck down before throwing them a 20 and kicking them out.
    Profanity makes me laugh.
    Sarcasm is funny as fuck.
    I aint afraid of a fight.
    I might be a hoosier in many folks eyes.
    That doesn't minimize my skills or accomplishments.
    I am not a tool and die machinist. Don't want to be.
    I was just looking for advice.
    To those that contributed.. sincere thanks.
    Wags

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagspe208 View Post
    I always enjoy dragging in whores. Sometimes I just slow the truck down before throwing them a 20 and kicking them out.
    Profanity makes me laugh.
    Sarcasm is funny as fuck.
    I aint afraid of a fight.
    I might be a hoosier in many folks eyes.
    That doesn't minimize my skills or accomplishments.
    I am not a tool and die machinist. Don't want to be.
    I was just looking for advice.
    To those that contributed.. sincere thanks.
    Wags
    Wow...Just WOW.

    Try the "Friendly machinist forum"....You'll get just what you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    Wow...Just WOW.

    Try the "Friendly machinist forum"....You'll get just what you need.
    That "5% of newbs want to fight" I pulled out my ass should have included a "1% only joined to fight". He's already in my blocked file.

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    Not all Jets are poorly made. From what I gather they are all made in low end mainland China shops these days. I have a 14 x 30 Jet branded manual lathe manufactured in Taiwan in 1975. I have had it 25 years and used to run production on it before buying CNCs. It still gets weekly use, every thing still functions as it should and it never needed any repairs since I have owned it.

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    Frankly I really couldn't care less about the manufacturer, save for the mini mills and lathes. Same goes for the hobby guys. Machining stuff is machining stuff whether for profit or for fun. But I won't pass on a chance to get a jab in.

    For some reason a lot of guys here don't feel the same on the above topics, sobeit. You never know who's gonna teach you something.

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    Wow, what a thread. "just a bridgeport copy" is something I hear a dozen times a day. Aside from belts and bearings, I would say about 99% of the Jet is not compatible with Bridgeport parts. Buy the jet part, make your own, or deal with it not being what you want.

    Even more unfortunate, jet has the horrible habit of obsoleting their machines pretty quick.

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    Newbs might expect to take it on the chin once or twice and not upset..could have saved the broken and brazed it back to ok...or not.

    but once the argument starts the the thread is busted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post

    but once the argument starts the the thread is busted.
    Maybe Jet offers replacement threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    Maybe Jet offers replacement threads?
    Gordon would know, He knows all about threads....where is Gordon?

    Ops..OT:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualkit View Post
    Not all Jets are poorly made. From what I gather they are all made in low end mainland China shops these days. I have a 14 x 30 Jet branded manual lathe manufactured in Taiwan in 1975. I have had it 25 years and used to run production on it before buying CNCs. It still gets weekly use, every thing still functions as it should and it never needed any repairs since I have owned it.
    Oh man , this can be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    Just think about how much you saved when you bought that junk, expensive parts should be fine...........
    Quote Originally Posted by Mebfab View Post
    Just for grins, call monarch. Better yet call the 600 group about a plastic handle for a colchester lathe. Then you will see what a "real" lathe part costs.
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    What is billet?
    Quote Originally Posted by rons View Post
    Perhaps the hand wheel has exotic chrome plating.

    I made a hand wheel out of solid 304. A pile of work.

    At least you have three options, make , buy used, or bend.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mebfab View Post
    How do you buy groceries without getting into a fist fight?
    Quote Originally Posted by cyanidekid View Post
    haha!! yea, that didn't count as sarcasm, and certainly wasn't even a "warm up" for where this could have gone! this one might take the prize for "A bit touchy, are we?"

    WELL.... now that the OP has taken offense and replied in an abusive manner, shall we go for it, and see how creative we can be? show them some genuine sarcasm???? [WITHOUT being abusive,of corse]

    ok, to get it started, "well why not take that money out of what they MUST have paid you to haul away a fire damaged jet?
    Quote Originally Posted by g-coder05 View Post
    The second he mentioned "Billet" I visioned how this group was going to fire on the (Newb).

    He must be one of those ricer guys that thinks if it's "billet" it's got to be stronger.
    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    You don't "buy" groceries with a WIC card.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Keeley View Post
    Piling on I know, but I couldn't resist!



    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    I would think it would have to be aircraft grade billet to have any real advantage.
    Quote Originally Posted by crossthread View Post
    That's what here here for.
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnEvans View Post
    Rule one of buying machine tool parts !
    Be happy you can get the part ,pay the price and live with it. Or Make it!
    Rule 2 -10 as above!!
    who started the fight, certainly not the OP, he was just asking for some help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagspe208 View Post
    I might be a hoosier in many folks eyes.
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    You might have Hoosiers but we got Hosers! Eh!


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    Re: The Jet mill and the forum's guidelines.

    In case you have not visited our founder's business web site, one of the machines that he presently lists there is a Jet saw:

    Procyon Machine

    Judging by the price, it is a high end Jet saw. This thread has not been closed, so I suspect that it is OK to discuss some of the more professional Jet products. Heck, Milacron himself may be able to help find these parts at better prices.

    Do I find this puzzling? Yes, I do. But I do not find it to be problematic. And I would not start a discussion on a $250 Jet machine. But apparently the guidelines do not simply go by the manufacturer's name. So I would take the OP's question as a serious one about a machine that he or his employer uses for PROFESSIONAL purposes. And he needs to get it fixed so he or his company can use it to MAKE MONEY. To me that is enough of an indication that the question is of a PROFESSIONAL nature. I personally feel that any machine or equipment or tool that is used to make money in a profession is a PROFESSIONAL tool or machine. Of course, our moderator may disagree and I/we must respect such decisions.

    As for getting parts for his Jet mill, it is very likely an import and many imported machines are very similar. They probably come from the same factories and probably share a number of parts. Our OP could look at similar machines from another importer and see if their prices are any better. OK, I am going to say the name of one such importer who does claim to stock some repair parts for the machines they sell. Grizzly would be one such importer to check. They have their manuals on line so he could find a similar Grizzly model and check the parts list. Then call them about the availability and price.



    Quote Originally Posted by g-coder05 View Post
    I've got over 35 years running shops in 7 countries and ALL of them learned if you're going to be a PRO you need to have some thick skin and take in what you dish out. Shit, I've go 20 year old Chinese girls in charge of the 5X department that has thicker skin than this fella!

    He made three mistakes:
    1. He didn't read the forum guidelines, obviously, the one stating this site is for professionals only. He already said he was not a machinist.
    2. He used the word "Billet" to describe a piece of material. That's a newb giveaway right there. To "Pro's" this is like scratching a chalk board. The only people who use that term are the car kids that watch too much TV.
    3. Then he said he had a "Jet" mill. Once again, goes against the guidelines set by Don when he founded, developed, oh,, and payed for this site. Had the guy read the rules he wouldn't have tossed himself into the lions den by mentioning a hobby machine.


    That being said, Had he taken his licks and responded like he had some balls and not so sarcastically I could have sent him that part tomorrow morning (12 hours ahead of USA east coast here). I'm going to be at Jing Xi machinery in Taiwan tomorrow (Where Jet, Acra, Micro-cut, and probably a dozen other brands are made). I'm sure they would just give me a couple of housings for free and I could drop them at air-21 and he would have had fresh raw castings by Tuesday morning for the price of a $20 shipping box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ostie01 View Post
    who started the fight, certainly not the OP, he was just asking for some help
    You seem to have missed post #6, scooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagspe208 View Post
    where I came from... the field I came from... billet is slang …. a part could be cast, forged, or billet... a chunk of wood could be billet... it implies nothing about strength, or size... it is just a chunk of stuff
    I also say "you all", "howdy", and "dandy".
    so.. billet is just a generic term...
    funny how the guy bitching about that says he is "professional"... also a term with no true defined value, specification, etc.
    Whores are "professionals"... that does not mean much.
    Please return from whence you came.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    You seem to have missed post #6, scooter.
    You seem to have missed post #4 and # 5, scooter


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