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    Default Lista cabinet lock rotor

    Iím a big fan of Lista cabinets. I own several and recently set out to homologize them. Unfortunately, while their support is fantastic overall, some things just donít exist in their inventory any more.

    I need/want part 2423 for two boxes. Lista doesnít have any. Unfortunately I donít have the part to even pattern from.
    Lista can still provide the lock assembly, keyed however I ask, the actuating rod is a piece of square rod.
    Iím willing to try and make two new pieces, but not from scratch.
    Shot in the dark: does anyone out there in PM world have a GenII Lista box theyíre willing to take apart? If so Iíll gladly accept any reference or measurement you can give.
    For a reasonable amount Iíll buy your part if you want. Or pay shipping both ways.


    Edited to satisfy the grammar police
    Last edited by jermfab; 01-31-2020 at 08:07 AM.

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    Homologate? Don't try to use words that you don't know the meaning of. How do you "make new pieces, but not from scratch"?

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    From Merriam Webster
    ho∑​mol∑​o∑​gate | \ hō-ˈmš-lə-ˌgāt , hə- \
    homologated; homologating
    Definition of homologate
    transitive verb
    : SANCTION, ALLOW
    especially : to approve or confirm officially

    Not sure how it applies here.

    Obvious abuse of the English language=banned for life!


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    I'm assuming he meant homologize, as in make them all the same....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdmidget View Post
    Homologate? Don't try to use words that you don't know the meaning of. How do you "make new pieces, but not from scratch"?
    He means not design them from scratch. The post was very clear that he is looking for guidance as to dimensions, etc. of the existing part.

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    Wow! Half of this forum canít keep straight there, their and theyíre and somehow I catch these responses. Yes. Iím seeking to making my cabinets homogeneous, all the same. Sorry I didnít read my fucking thesaurus before posting.
    To be even clearer, not from scratch means my time is valuable enough that Iím not willing to spend a bunch of time buried at the back of a cabinet taking measurements. Itís not a difficult part, with a pattern or literally any sort of reference to start from, but I donít have the time to make it from nothing.
    A photo of the piece next to a barely extended tape measure is more valuable than the drawing I currently have.
    Hopefully my use of the language is up to snuff here.
    Jesus Christ get lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jermfab View Post
    Jesus Christ get lives.
    I'd say at least half of the usual posters here are retired or no longer directly work in manufacturing (Walmart greeters). So they are just bitter old men with nothing else in their lives, but their wives. Hence the bitterness.

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    Does this look correct?
    img_6909.jpg
    Is the long rod to the lock part of it?
    How does one extract it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMasochism View Post
    I'd say at least half of the usual posters here are retired or no longer directly work in manufacturing (Walmart greeters). So they are just bitter old men with nothing else in their lives, but their wives. Hence the bitterness.
    I think it's from watching the morning news and listening to the college educated reporters speak in incomplete sentences, headlines, or text, then they tell us how to dress our childeren and to put something important in the back seat of the cat with them, like a cell phone so we don't forget them in the car on a 100 degree day, it makes me kinda crazy too.

    Anyhow, you can have mine if it will work, I don't have a key anyhow.

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    Many thanks to Kustomizer, PM sent.

    As was stated above, the goal was to make all of my Lista cabinets function the same. Unfortunately the two GenII cabinets I have came to me used, with both lock actuators completely gone. Other than the drawing Lista sent me and Kustomizerís photo, Iíve never even SEEN these parts. Iíve verified with Lista and for myself that the current lock assemblies will fit the older housings. Unfortunately, while Lista does do a great job of supporting their product and havenít changed the overall architecture, the divider slots and hole patterns remain the same through all variants, there have been three unique latch mechanisms:

    Iíve been advised by Lista that GenIII drawers and sliders will fit in previous generation housings, but I will lose the latch and locking mechanism. Lista is also rightfully proud of their products and do not give them away. And Iíd be left with 11 drawers and slides.
    I like that with Listaís latch system only one drawer can open at a time as a safety measure, the problem becomes that when being moved, if the boxes arenít locked the mechanism can be overwhelmed and all drawers open with the ensuing mess and downtime. Additionally my four year old spends time with me at the shop, heís into everything as is typical, but thereís some things he doesnít NEED to be able to get into.
    So the goal is to make the missing pieces to be able to lock these two older cabinets as I can lock my newer stuff. Iím quickly approaching the point where Iíve devoted too much time to this errand and definitely didnít want to attempt it without ANY reference. But itís a simple part and this is what we do. With a modicum of reference Iím nearly certain I can achieve my goal.
    Thanks to those with meaningful additions.


    Jeremy

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    Just a thought:

    If someone were able to take another photo with a scale next to the cam piece it might be possible to get some pretty close measurements from the photo.

    It would take some ingenuity as to how to place and remove the scale at the back of the cabinet but in the past I've taken photos with something else for scale and imported them as a layer into CAD.

    Also might be able to do an edge find in a photo program but IMO having a good clear photo as a pattern makes it fairly simply to draw a close approximation.

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    I am not sure this is the correct piece but take a look, it is around 3' in diameter

    Steve
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    img_6911.jpg
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    Out and ready to ship unless you want the rest of the locking stuff too

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    Email sent Kustomizer, so many thanks again. One of many reasons this community rocks. Thanks to all that chimed in with productive stuff and again thanks to Kustomizer for coming through. Iím certain with the part in hand I can make another one. This thread Iím sure can go the way of the dodo.


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    I much prefer the spiral cam type locks, as they are trivial to break into if they accidentally slam-lock. The older
    ones with the steel bar in back that lifts off to the side, not so easy....

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    Looks like a good candidate for a 3d printer

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    My plan is to pull a mold from the part that Kustomizer so graciously pulled from one of his cabinets and sent to me. Mainly because I do not have a 3D printer. I will likely use that mold to make the two pieces I need and see if any of my 3D printing friends want a crack at it. Thereís also a guy on eBay that
    makes replacement, 3D printed latches for the older style box and Iíll reach out to him to see if he has any interest.



    Jeremy


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