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    Can someone tell me about the 102? I cant find any info on it really. Looks like its circa 1950? Pros/cons? Accurate machine?

    PS, what would be a fair price for the machine? I'm going to go look at it. Is there anything Schaubin-specific (not normal lathe wear) that I should look for when evaluating its condition? Thanks for any help. I will post the link if I dont buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subw00er View Post
    Can someone tell me about the 102? I cant find any info on it..
    Google (whomever wudda THUNK it?)

    ... finds:

    - current and old sales with prices

    - PM and other forums where members discuss the ones they own,

    - and even three (at least) you tube videos on the 102.

    - A deeper dig, and the MAKER has a web page that covers its own history.

    Now... if you want a four-year collitch degree on it or a Swiss Apprentice course?

    I can suggest a Thalwil-based teacher of German as a second language, Swiss OR DE version of the lingo.

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    Say what termite, insect talk again! Show us your Fire Ball XL5 lathe Chump Change!
    Wow less then 400 worthless rambling post to go to reach the 20000 post mile stone "again", you should get 5 or 6 armpit fart salutes from your true supporters for that!

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    Don't feed the incoherent troll, Donie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subw00er View Post
    Can someone tell me about the 102? I cant find any info on it really. ...
    No it's a piece of junk. Don't buy it. Give me the phone number of the seller so I can give him a BIG piece of my mind for offering you such a terrible piece of junk. Just horrible. Stay away from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subw00er View Post
    Don't feed the incoherent troll, Donie!
    It only gets worse if I do nothing, and that is a sad fact. However, he does have a few "hobby machinist" sub forum moderators that are protecting this fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    No it's a piece of junk. Don't buy it. Give me the phone number of the seller so I can give him a BIG piece of my mind for offering you such a terrible piece of junk. Just horrible. Stay away from it.
    Ermm. A Schaublin 102 is a "terrible piece of junk"?

    Seems as if your greed is showing, Jim!

    Or maybe just envy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Subw00er View Post
    Can someone tell me about the 102? I cant find any info on it really. Looks like its circa 1950? Pros/cons? Accurate machine?

    PS, what would be a fair price for the machine? I'm going to go look at it. Is there anything Schaubin-specific (not normal lathe wear) that I should look for when evaluating its condition? Thanks for any help. I will post the link if I dont buy.
    Here is a link to lathes UK on it:
    Schaublin 102-VM Lathe

    Also put schaublin 102 in the search function here and get pages of results.

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    I've done a lot of searching but have not found a lot of actual good info, maybe only one video of it working.. sounded pretty loud!? So this is considered and accurate machine, I gather, even if 70 years old? I am not sure how much I will miss the power feed..

    In YOUR minds, what makes this machine quality? I want to hear from you, anecdotally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subw00er View Post
    In YOUR minds, what makes this machine quality? I want to hear from you, anecdotally!
    Surest sign of value as ever existed:

    Lazy fools don't understand why Schaublins are revered, even in the face of overwhelming published information spanning scores of years in evidence.

    Wiser folks JF buy them - quickly - while the pretentious fool... with the Harbor-Frieght LSO ....is posturing and prancing about with an attention-bid on the internet....playin' wit' his "a-nec dotal" "on Tee Vee" .... instead of doing an adult's job of his own damned research.

    Watch and see it happen.

    Yet-another time.

    "Educational thing". "Developmental", even. Try to LEARN from that.

    WE HAVE!

    One good lathe after another, scooped-up by a wiser man with MONEY... whilst somebody pondered in public agony for two weeks over that which he never COULD afford. "Oh.. I ALMOST caught...." for the next 20 years...

    Human nature. Bigger fish or nicer machinery. Can eat "the one that got away".
    If it a thing is for SALE? WHY would you ever think no one else KNOWS it is for sale?

    "PM at work. Doing what PM does best."

    Educating.

    PS: "Replacement" for something implies you have one to BE replaced.

    You do not.

    What you HAVE is an "LSO".

    Lathe Shaped OBJECT.


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    termite, the racist statements you made under your other fake ID "Monarchist" is outrageous to say the least.
    But you making new claims Shaublin lathes are so great doesnt hold water, here in the US, we have the better and more serviceable Hardinge and Monarch tool room lathes that have been proven to be better and much easier to use, again, you are full of shit.
    At least point out the benefits of your Fire Ball XL5! With photo!

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    There's a guy on HSM *right now* who is trying to lose a very nice, and nicely equipped, SB Heavy 10 (IIRC) built 1965, check over there in the general forum

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    Thanks Pavt. The SB 9a is starting to look like a good path, but I do think its still a bit on the bulky side. I also looked at Wabeco per your suggestion. The d4000 looks nice.

    I have a follow up question someone on here may know. Which bench lathes have a forward and reverse linear feed capability without shutting the machine off? I often shave down from decent sized diameters and it would be handy if I could flip a lever to reverse the carriage direction back and forth. Bonus points if said machine also had a power cross slide!

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    if you are running a single-phase motor, you'll have to wait to reverse.
    the thing has to unlatch, or it will continue to run in the same direction.
    then, if the motor is set-up to reverse, you may reverse . not every 220v
    single phase motor will reverse, but all 3-phase will.

    i hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subw00er View Post
    Thanks Pavt. The SB 9a is starting to look like a good path, but I do think its still a bit on the bulky side. I also looked at Wabeco per your suggestion. The d4000 looks nice.

    I have a follow up question someone on here may know. Which bench lathes have a forward and reverse linear feed capability without shutting the machine off? I often shave down from decent sized diameters and it would be handy if I could flip a lever to reverse the carriage direction back and forth. Bonus points if said machine also had a power cross slide!
    If the SB 9A is too bulky, then you would be best served with a chinese mini lathe. I do not believe you are going to find any lathe in the size and price range you are discussing with a lead/feed reversing function.

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    This was posted local on CL today:
    It is an Enco benctop, 12"x26" MODEL: 110-2021 asking $1500


    Enco Table Lathe (110-2021) - heavy equipment - by owner - sale

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    Once you get your short list, just BE READY. I just bought a Feeler 618 which is a copy of an HLV-H EM. I had been wanting to move my biz in that direction (smaller high precision work, but gotta have metric threading)....It popped up locally on CL. I emailed the seller 10 minutes after the ad went up, granted got lucky there, and bought it the next day. When you find the right thing, don’t screw around.

    Also understand that you’re gonna get some abuse asking about this here. Back when I joined I think Don would’ve just pulled your post; most of what you are asking about are hobby machines, and that was verboten. Anyway good luck in your search!

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    In the event that you need to do a touch of everything, attempt to settle on the huge width you need to turn and pick a machine concurring.

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    The SB9-A can reverse either the spindle or the lead screw independently of each other *and* has power feeds. With a single-phase motor that can be reversed by just turning the switch. Like another poster said, you won't get much smaller than that without spending on a imported hobby lathe, which is almost certain to cost more than the SB. And it certainly won't be supported here, this site is very much against that sort of thing. Being that this place is more oriented towards industrial use.

    If I was in your shoes I would be looking at Precision Matthews or Little Machine shop, and join at HSM. Either of those brands will run about $2500 at least, for something bare-bones yet decent.

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    A good chinese 12x24 is what You want.
    Buy by mass, aka weight, about 350 kg or 450 kg shipping weight.

    Most chinese 12x are light and skinny and not rigid.
    some are the heavier version, like mine.
    Chester Craftsman, in the UK.
    Accurate to about 2 microns.

    In the US some sellers have the heavier versions on sale, dont remember the brands off-hand.


    It is only 4" longer and deeper than what you were looking for.
    It is about 5x better and 2x more accurate than the old flimsy stuff mostly sold.

    It is easily broken apart and can be man-handled down stairs, by a couple of burly guys at 30$ an hour.

    The Monarch, Sharp, Feeler, Hardinge etc. are a tiny bit smaller and much heavier.
    More accurate.
    And MUCH more expensive.

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