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    Default O/T - Ali Babin strikes again?

    Came across this listing for an Emco S11 for sale, problem is it's mine, and it's not for sale.

    Emco Maximat Super 11 11"X 25" 115V 1Ph Tool Room Lathe W/3 Jaw Chuck

    Although it does come up "no longer available" why was the page there to begin with? Why is it still there?

    Is this Babin?

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    If Al Babin, indeed, converted to Ali, we should expect more strikes.

    Just in case, I'd recheck if your lathe is still in Ontario and not in California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelP View Post
    If Al Babin, indeed, converted to Ali, we should expect more strikes.
    Ali Babin and the Forty Thievery Attempts?

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    First clue is an Enco is not a tool room lathe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plunger View Post
    First clue is an Enco is not a tool room lathe.
    Yes but Emco is. This machine was made in Austria. Fine machine for the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCritchley View Post
    Yes but Emco is. This machine was made in Austria. Fine machine for the cost.
    Sorry . I meant an Emco is not a tool room lathe. Its just too light. And as for the cost an Emco v13 in 1976 cost more than two BMW,s so it wasnt exactly cheap.

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    I never understood why machinery dealers are listing machines they don't have. Are they just trying to get contacted, and then do a bait and switch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CITIZEN F16 View Post
    I never understood why machinery dealers are listing machines they don't have. Are they just trying to get contacted, and then do a bait and switch?
    Honest people will never understand the mind of a crook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CITIZEN F16 View Post
    I never understood why machinery dealers are listing machines they don't have.
    Sometimes it's just the photo they don't have. Easier to grab one off the internet than drive fifty miles, and the guy who has it in his garage can't be bothered to go out and take one. Lazy, but until you get serious, what's the problem ? Go to the grocery store, they will have on-sale photos of pork chops that are not the ones you get, too.

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    You may find its actually g***le thats hoovered up your image ,stuck it in an imagebank,and copyrighted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CITIZEN F16 View Post
    I never understood why machinery dealers are listing machines they don't have. Are they just trying to get contacted, and then do a bait and switch?
    Probably. Sometimes a switch to nothing.

    Another possible reason to list something that is no longer available is to give the impression that things are selling fast, so don't dawdle, or you'll miss out yet again. So skip the due diligence.

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    I'll I buy it! I will send you twice the full price and you send me back half...

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    Looks like Al's phone number

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhoopee View Post
    Looks like Al's phone number
    OK. Who's going to call it? With a burner phone.

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    Global machine brokers is a reputable outfit as far as I can tell, located about 20mins from Babin. I dealt with them last maybe 8yrs ago so my info is somewhat dated but back then they had both inhouse inventory and then brokered a lot of equipment for customers.

    I can't speak for them on anything recent but they are definitely a different outfit. Seemed to hold a lot higher end stuff than Babin.

    Heck, Babin's place is always interesting to walk thru if one's in the area though from reading other's experiences I wouldn't trust him on anything I couldn't carry/drive off the property with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adammil1 View Post
    Global machine brokers is a reputable outfit as far as I can tell, located about 20mins from Babin. I dealt with them last maybe 8yrs ago so my info is somewhat dated but back then they had both inhouse inventory and then brokered a lot of equipment for customers.

    I can't speak for them on anything recent but they are definitely a different outfit. Seemed to hold a lot higher end stuff than Babin.

    Heck, Babin's place is always interesting to walk thru if one's in the area though from reading other's experiences I wouldn't trust him on anything I couldn't carry/drive off the property with.

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    Do you still have your Emco v13. ? I seem to be the only guy on the planet who owns an Emco v 13 with a permanent gap. It must be the biggest balls up Emco ever designed. If you work close up to the chuck about a quarter of the saddle hangs in the gap. To compensate my compound slide is waaay longer than a standerd compound for a v 13 but this creates a serious loss of rigidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vecair View Post
    I'll I buy it! I will send you twice the full price and you send me back half...
    Which half would you like, the headstock half or the tailstock half? :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CITIZEN F16 View Post
    I never understood why machinery dealers are listing machines they don't have. Are they just trying to get contacted, and then do a bait and switch?
    He may have a machine but not as nice as in the pic. Buyer beware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plunger View Post
    Do you still have your Emco v13. ? I seem to be the only guy on the planet who owns an Emco v 13 with a permanent gap. It must be the biggest balls up Emco ever designed. If you work close up to the chuck about a quarter of the saddle hangs in the gap. To compensate my compound slide is waaay longer than a standerd compound for a v 13 but this creates a serious loss of rigidity.
    Yep still have it, mine doesn't have a gap but it's a great machine.

    One thing I can't figure out is how it handles threading as there's no thread dial but it always works. Does yours have a thread dial?

    No matter where you engage the lead screw it picks up on the thread. I know Emco used to sell a thread dial for this machine but I have yet to find a thread pitch that requires one. Only problem on the machine is I need to one day figure out how to tighten the spindle bearing preload as it struggles with a cutoff tool. The manual isn't much help in telling you how to do it either as it essentially tells you to tighten till you are happy. I would think something that critical would be more scientific?

    Anyhow sorry for the thread hijack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adammil1 View Post
    One thing I can't figure out is how it handles threading as there's no thread dial but it always works. Does yours have a thread dial?

    No matter where you engage the lead screw it picks up on the thread. I know Emco used to sell a thread dial for this machine but I have yet to find a thread pitch that requires one.
    Most common threads can be cut by engaging the half nut at any dial location:

    https://groups.io/g/EmcoSuper11lathe...0p%2058%29.pdf


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