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    Cadillac (aka YAM aka Yang Machine Tool out of Taiwan) make 14x22, 14x28 and 14x40 lathes (along with bigger ones). They are not quite Mori clones from what I have heard but pretty nice. Most I have seen have two speed 3/5 HP motors. Only on the used market though.

    Attached are some spec sheets....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finegrain View Post
    Whacheon/Mori Seiki/Webb etc. are very nice, but when available in known-good condition like from Greer, they are, at the end of the day, $12-15k 10-20 YO machines. At that price point, I'd rather have a warrantied smaller machine.

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    I used a Whacheon at my last job for 15 years, 8 years later they are still using it every day. Not one minute of trouble in 23 years, get a good machine and you don't need a warranty. If I was in the market for a manual lathe Whacheon is what I would be looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crrmeyer View Post
    Cadillac (aka YAM aka Yang Machine Tool out of Taiwan) make 14x22, 14x28 and 14x40 lathes (along with bigger ones). They are not quite Mori clones from what I have heard but pretty nice. Most I have seen have two speed 3/5 HP motors. Only on the used market though.

    Attached are some spec sheets....

    Heck, Mine was off white paint. ;-)

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    I would sell my own MAZAK AJAX HERCULES (Mazak ACE)

    But then I would hate myself. It's so nice to use. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan_machine View Post
    How are you actually finding these things on craigslist? All of my searches there fail. (I'm looking for a machine similar to what Finegrain is...)
    Also search on Seattle or Portland and then tick off the "extended areas".

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    Yes, I read that, and there's enough bad in there to make me reluctant to drop >$15k (current price) on a machine that I might have to work at to get right. Metalmaster10 has some more negative feedback on that machine. MBraddock has good feedback, but on machines that might predate Grizzly's full incorporation of the line. I've owned enough Grizzly machines to know what to expect from them ... even if they do paint it blue and white instead of green, and slather it with South Bend stickers.

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    TOS still makes a 13" I think.

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    SN 32 | Trens

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    Placing change gears to achieve metric threading is not the end of the earth, You become familiar with the exchange , and it becomes second nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crrmeyer View Post
    Cadillac (aka YAM aka Yang Machine Tool out of Taiwan) make 14x22, 14x28 and 14x40 lathes (along with bigger ones). They are not quite Mori clones from what I have heard but pretty nice. Most I have seen have two speed 3/5 HP motors. Only on the used market though.

    Attached are some spec sheets....
    NOT mori clones. i don't know that mori-seiki produced a 14" swing lathe , imported to north america.

    i do know that the YAM 14" was good, on par with the Takisawa TSL-800 ... which is a fine benchmark
    to be compared.

    BTW, "cadillac' is just another rebadge, maybe from Webb machinery . there were 1980's 'whacheon" -
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    clones (not sure why?) just be sure to get the caddys that are YAM made , and the w(h)acheons
    that look like mori's .

    WEBB recently imports more diverse lathes they've called "cadillac' .

    webb has some new "cadillac" machines that are dead-ringers for ? not sure.

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    ZMM Bulgaria?

    14" is missing from their line-up and the 13" is kind of light-duty but in 16" there is more than one option.
    http://www.zmmbulgaria.com/media/236...013_100dpi.pdf

    Other than TOS and ZMM I dont think there is too many other european manufacturers left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    SN 32 | Trens

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    Placing change gears to achieve metric threading is not the end of the earth, You become familiar with the exchange , and it becomes second nature.
    I thought of Tos / Trens - for they would be my go to, ..........but as I thought the only North American dealer is in Canada so rightly or wrongly discounted them Page not found | Trens

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    Surplus Record Used Machinery, Machine Tools & Used Equipment Directory

    Lots of good stuff there.

    I too would go TOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidScott View Post
    Takisawa? No idea about the price but I would bet well above what your are wanting to spend. May be worth finding out.
    Takisawa makes remarkable manual lathes. Yamazen supports them in most of the USA.

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    as far as brand new sub 15k IMO Kent TRL series are pretty decent...note that while they look the same as the SSM and KLS series they are NOT.

    This holds true across many brands and is why you get so many conflicting reports on what seems to be the same machine.

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    A shop I work with has a few Polish made Haco engine lathes. They seem to be pretty good quality. They go under a few names, TUR, FAT, Toolmex. Toolmex is the dealer.

    CNC lathes - Haco

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    BTW- you would have to ask him to be sure but IIRC the ones metalmaster10 had a bad experience with were the Grizzly G0740 ones...which I believe were an attempt to have Taiwanese castings assembled and fitted(ha,ha) in one of their PRC factories...

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    We bought our last Whacheon about a year ago from Greer Machinery and I'm pretty sure he told us he's the NA distributor for Whacheon and has been for a number of years and that he has a huge inventory of parts on site for them.


    Quote Originally Posted by ewlsey View Post
    So who actually makes these Mori clone lathes? Cadillac, Yam, Ajax, Sharp, Victor, etc?

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    Cal,

    If you do that, let me know because mine would love a twin brother . Haha.

    Mike


    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    I would sell my own MAZAK AJAX HERCULES (Mazak ACE)

    But then I would hate myself. It's so nice to use. ;-)

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    sub 20k...killer specs.
    Leblond often has special deals too so worth a call to see what they might have going on.

    RKL 13G SERIES GEARED HEAD LATHE | LeBlond Ltd.


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