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    I'm putting a new door on my money pit and am painting the door the color SWIMBO requires. I got PPG "timeless" exterior latex paint. The stuff is absolute rubbish! 42 bucks a gallon and it is so thick it is almost unusable, it is about like painting with grease, even with a good brush you get brush marks and can see the start and stop of every brush stroke. The label says do not thin, what to do, thin it anyway? with water? will this change the color?

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    I wonder if warming it might help?

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    Buy a sprayer but not a cheap one.
    With the low pressure tips there is very little overspray

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    Quote Originally Posted by kustomizer View Post
    I wonder if warming it might help?
    Mabey, it is 72 in the shop, the paint has been in here for days one would think that would be warm enough......

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    Smooth blade trowel. No brush marks.
    Fine tooth trowel. Wood grain effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffy887 View Post
    smooth blade trowel. No brush marks.
    Fine tooth trowel. Wood grain effect.
    lol........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinist_max View Post
    Buy a sprayer but not a cheap one.
    With the low pressure tips there is very little overspray
    What brand is a good one?

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    Most likely, the "do not thin" is just to keep people from bitching about the coverage not being as advertised, running, etc. Usually for exterior general painting, a thicker paint is good--more solids, better coverage, and less dripping and running. If yours is more "aesthetically demanding" on smoothness, then I'd try thinning it a bit with water, and use a very good brush for latex. Of course, the finish is not going to be any better than what's underneath. Does it smooth out any when it dries? Also, the color will be different (correct) when dry.

    I painted an exterior door a few years ago with Sherwin-Williams exterior semigloss latex, and left it outside horizontal when it was really too cool to be painting, and water condensed on it to boot; put the door back up the next morning, and it was still soft. That day (still chilly outside), the paint blistered, and I said oh crap, I'll have to redo that. True to my procrastination, I left it there for a couple weeks, the blisters disapperad and the door looks fine--good quality latex paint is pretty forgiving stuff. I usually use Sherwin William standard superpaint, because their service is excellent, and the paint has always been OK for me.

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    Had the interior done with some Benjamin Moore like that a few years ago, the painter was excellent and thinned it with water to his liking.

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    I would scoop out 1 oz. and slowly add water from a eye dropper of water. Add a few drops and stir, repeat. When you get to a consistency that's right you know the ratio.

    Using a carpet roller would give a even like texture to the door and would look better than brush strokes. A paint gun finish is the other route.

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    If you bought it from a real paint store, call them up and ask how to paint. The paint companies have been spending big bucks reformulating paint to minimize voc emissions, but have not done a lot to educate consumers. Its not the paint of 20 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbent View Post
    If you bought it from a real paint store, call them up and ask how to paint. The paint companies have been spending big bucks reformulating paint to minimize voc emissions, but have not done a lot to educate consumers. Its not the paint of 20 years ago.
    I got it from the orange store full of morons who don't give a shit. Sherwin Williams from now on.

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    I thought about that when I did a google search for your paint.

    Take it back and open the can at the paint counter. They mix paint all day so they might know about the viscosity issue.
    Not that any of them will really know about paint, just from previous encounters with thick headed paint cans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight machine View Post
    I'm putting a new door on my money pit and am painting the door the color SWIMBO requires. I got PPG "timeless" exterior latex paint. The stuff is absolute rubbish! 42 bucks a gallon and it is so thick it is almost unusable, it is about like painting with grease, even with a good brush you get brush marks and can see the start and stop of every brush stroke. The label says do not thin, what to do, thin it anyway? with water? will this change the color?
    I would not use water to thin your paint... A better product is Floetrol Latex Paint Additive, manufactured by Flood. I’ve been using this and their oil based version for more years than I can count. You can get it at Home Depot and similar box stores, as well as all over the net.

    Cheers!

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