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    Quote Originally Posted by Ries View Post
    If'n you were talking over 50 hp, 2wd, then, suddenly tractors are a whole nother market. I can drive a couple hundred miles into the farm country of eastern washington, and get a real tractor, for half what a tiny used Kubota goes for- but it would be 2WD, and, often, gas, not diesel- the older ones all are. Heck, I have seen great tractors for a couple grand like that.
    It's about the same here. My local Massey Ferguson dealer says they can't sell used tractors that aren't 4WD. They don't even try. If they take in a compact tractor that's 2WD they just sell it wholesale on an auction somewhere.

    I remember 15 or so years ago when the market for old Ford 2N, 9N, and 8N tractors went bananas. Guys were asking $5k for a rough one and getting it. Now those tractors are worth almost nothing. I see them for $800-$1500 all the time.

    There are some really decent Japanese compact tractors out there that don't happen to be painted orange. My grandpa has a Ford badged Yanmar that is very nice. My landlord had a Satoh which I think is a Mitsubishi product. The sheet metal was horrible, but the bones of the tractor were pretty good.

    If you can handle a gas engine, it's a buyer's market. I remember when an International 574, Ford 3400, John Deere 2020, etc were going for $5k to $8k. Now you can get them for more like $3-6K.

    Prices on some "real" tractors have gone nuts though. You cannot buy a John Deere 4020 diesel for less than $12,000 in this area. Same for a 1206 International.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewlsey View Post
    It's about the same here. My local Massey Ferguson dealer says they can't sell used tractors that aren't 4WD. They don't even try. If they take in a compact tractor that's 2WD they just sell it wholesale on an auction somewhere.

    I remember 15 or so years ago when the market for old Ford 2N, 9N, and 8N tractors went bananas. Guys were asking $5k for a rough one and getting it. Now those tractors are worth almost nothing. I see them for $800-$1500 all the time.

    There are some really decent Japanese compact tractors out there that don't happen to be painted orange. My grandpa has a Ford badged Yanmar that is very nice. My landlord had a Satoh which I think is a Mitsubishi product. The sheet metal was horrible, but the bones of the tractor were pretty good.

    If you can handle a gas engine, it's a buyer's market. I remember when an International 574, Ford 3400, John Deere 2020, etc were going for $5k to $8k. Now you can get them for more like $3-6K.

    Prices on some "real" tractors have gone nuts though. You cannot buy a John Deere 4020 diesel for less than $12,000 in this area. Same for a 1206 International.
    Exactly how I picked up my low hr MF 2wd 283 (about 75hp Perkins) with under 2k hrs cheap, it’s not the tractor for small properties like Ries described but it’s way more machine for the dollar if you have room for it.

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    Here in Houston, I've never seen Kubotas sell for much less than new.

    If I were to get another one, I'd get an L3901. I looked at used ones, with as much as 450 hours on them, and they wanted very near new prices. And they seemed to be getting it.

    My Kubota is a '95 L2350. I bought it with just under 500 hours. It has over 1100 hours now and has never, ever failed to start or needed any repair beyond a new battery. It's never even acted like it needed any repair. It's like an orange anvil that rolls.
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    I have had a Ford 1720 4x4 tractor for more than 20 years, its been a great little tractor, I love that thing.
    2 years ago I bought a L3430 Kubota with cab and AC. Should have done that many years ago. I have bad allergies and have trouble with the heat. It’s been a life changer for me. I wait till it gets too hot to do any thing else and I go mow. It’s a 2006 model it had 242 hrs. When I bought it, it was picture perfect. Had a little wear on the front tires that was it.
    For loader work I like the Ford better easier to see and control valve is not cable operated like the Kubota.
    I thought the Kubota was comfortable till I sat in a new JD, it was comparing a 1975 Mazda to a Cadillac. But its fine with me because I am cool and dust free.


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    Small tractors are rich mans toys......and used ones are often unserviced for the entire time a rich man owned them......Ive done a fair bit of work on them,and one of the major fails I have found is if the machine runs a slasher at idle,or just above revs.....the lack of oil splash in the tranny chops out the PTO drive spline internally......its a repair that often costs more than the tractor is worth....And often the parts arent serviced....I used to make my own...but obviously not as good as OEM.

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    When I bought mine about 04, I was convinced JD ground up money to make their green paint. looked like a 15% premium in a hard to compare market. OK, they do offer some nice features. I bought a Kubota.

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    The small JD used to be Yanmars,tractors and excavators.....but then they started US manufacture ,but used mower tech...like sintered gears......which work to a life ,then fail quickly......i used to like the grey imports ,some still had the clear plastic bags on the seats.....but always had the crazy paddy field tyres......the grey import 4x4 loaders and excavators used to be fantastic value,but spares specialists have seen prices skyrocket.Still,where are you going to find a used machine with 50 hrs on the clock.

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    There's no way my Kubota (23.5HP) could be considered a rich man's toy. It spent the first 7 years of its life pulling a brush hog at a manufacturing complex, then I bought it and it's done nothing but hard work since.

    As an aside, when my BIL (a rich man) bought a 55HP JD, he told me he looked at Kubotas too but the JD salesman pulled him aside and confided in him that the Kubotas were 'a homeowner' type of tractor. So he bought the JD for his playground ranch....and it sure seems to be broken a lot and oozing fluids a lot....

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    There are examples of terrible tractors with every brand. I've got a 2003 John Deere x595 (23HP diesel, 2,200 pounds or so when fully loaded with attachments and ballasted) that I bought new with a loader and a box blade that has been kicking ass for 16 years with just standard maintenance - oil and filter changes, regular greasing of every available zerk, etc. The only failure I've had was a blown hydraulic line. No leaks anywhere aside from that one. The tractor has had hundreds of hours use doing loader work and box blade work regrading my couple acres. Use it to mow also of course. Very handy to have a loader for lifting and carrying when you have a bad back. Have pulled plenty of trees with it too. Loosen them up by pushing high with the loader and yank with a mechanical advantage pulley setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Ferguson View Post
    Our local tractor dealers get a bunch of new tractors and rent them out for grape harvesting in the fall. The deals are on the rental returns late in the fall. These are slightly larger than compact tractors (30-40 hp), but I've been happy with the Kubota we bought 12 years ago.
    Odd.

    Our grape area tractors are all "vineyard special", and sometimes drive the parts counter people nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmead View Post
    If you’re buying new have the dealer commit to keeping a curved windshield on hand in their parts dept. Hyster has kept up on that for a purchase I made. Curved windshields are really nice for the operators.
    Yabutt !

    Good for the "buy new and trade in every 2 years" crowd.

    it's the second and third owners that get stuck with very high replacement cost's, and as they usually aren't in the machine 8 hours a day, don't really need the best windshield (curved).

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    In my years as an equipment mechanic I only saw two curved windshields broken... both were skids and caused by the operator lifting the arms with the door open. I have also spent many hours in equipment and had those things take impressive hits without breaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewlsey View Post

    There are some really decent Japanese compact tractors out there that don't happen to be painted orange. My grandpa has a Ford badged Yanmar that is very nice. My landlord had a Satoh which I think is a Mitsubishi product. The sheet metal was horrible, but the bones of the tractor were pretty good.
    I have a Satoh 650 tractor that while I like it, it is almost impossible to find replacement part for. I finally managed to find a source for some parts through my BIL who still has contacts in the forklift world and apparently they used the same motor in, I believe, a Clark forklift from 71-73. Also as a person who is 6'1" with most of my height in my legs, it is a tight fit running that tractor and the clutch wears out my knee if I have to do much maneuvering.

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    When I bought my Kubota L48 I sent RFQs to 3 dealers. 2 Wanted list, one offered a 16% discount. So yes, negotiate. On the other hand when I bought my JD mower, all of the dealers told me they could not negotiate the price, but one offered me some “free” add ons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flail View Post
    On the other hand when I bought my JD mower, all of the dealers told me they could not negotiate the price, but one offered me some “free” add ons.
    A "3-pack" of Green & yellow underwear ?

    I hope you didn't drink the kool-aide.

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    You can keep those green piles of horse manure.....................Kubota is a good machine. Pricey, but much better than a Deere. Jap quality. Not sure where or who makes JD? Prolly India? Plus you don't have to JD specific loader attachments...............Most all other compacts use the universal QT mount.

    I have a Cub Cadet(really a Yanmar and Jap made)......49hp. Very well built rig. Very well engineered......a few years back when CC quit offering compacts and parted ways with Yanmar, most existing inventory went for some great deals. I picked up my rig for close to $10k less than original asking price. And that included an extra rear remote and fluid in the tires. Great lil tractor...........


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    About 3 years ago, I was looking for a tractor and figured I would spend just a few $k on an old Ford or IH farm tractor. But while searching CL for close by and tractors that would work for me, I saw lots of Kubotas for sale so I kinda got a handle on what they were trading for although still beyond my budget. Then one day as I headed off to work, there was a BX23 Kubota parked on the lawn of a house about 300 yards down the road from my house. Front end loader and a backhoe. I was surprised that he was asking about $4k less than what I had expected it to be. And then he told me it had to be sold in the next two days as was moving to Germany. I couldn't help myself and offered several $K less than what he was asking. He moaned realizing that he shouldn't have mentioned the two day thing and with just half hearted haggling from him we struck a deal. So I ended up spending a bunch more than I wanted to but got a great deal on a very low hour Kubota that he used just to push the horse balls around the yard left there by his wife's horse.
    Keep your fingers crossed and keep your eyes open for the deals are out there..

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    I bought a Kubota B2320 (23hp) with FEL and BH in 2010. Fantastic little machine.
    At the time they offered that B series in 23, 26 and 29hp, if I had to do it over the 26 and 29 loader frame and cylinders were larger, but everything else was the same. Somewhere I read you could get the step up loader if you ask for it.

    At the time I was prepared to pay cash and they had a deal 0% financing for 60 months, dealer told me same price either paid today in full or spread it out over 5 years.
    IIRC Barlow’s Equip in Sommerset KY ( Steve Barlow Farm Equipment | Kubota Dealer in Somerset, KY ) will give you a quote and deliver. I chose my local Kubota dealer in case I needed any service (which I have not).

    No regrets here.

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    Well,Doozer,that is a nice little tractor........but lookin at yer back 40,I d be thinkin the little tractor is gonna be strugglin.

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