OT: Califorina votes on permanent daylight saving time

Bill D · Oct 22, 2018

Off Topic: this November California votes on possible permanent daylight saving time. Are any other states considering this? It is being promoted as saving energy and reducing time switch confusion.
Bill D

The USA did have permanent DST during WW2. I believe Britain had double daylight time.
Alaska and Arizona do not do DST.

adama · Oct 22, 2018

Bill D said:
Off Topic: this November California votes on possible permanent daylight saving time. Are any other states considering this? It is being promoted as saving energy and reducing time switch confusion.
Bill D

Its been talked about by lots of countries the world over, few have ever got past talking though!

Gobo · Oct 22, 2018

Does ANYBODY think daylight savings time is a GOOD idea?

DDoug · Oct 22, 2018

Gobo said:
Does ANYBODY think daylight savings time is a GOOD idea?

Yes, if we stay on it all year 'round.

Less crime.

DavidScott · Oct 22, 2018

Gobo said:
Does ANYBODY think daylight savings time is a GOOD idea?

Absolutely! It gives you an extra hour of sunlight without getting up an hour earlier, what is not to like?

Bobw · Oct 22, 2018

Gobo said:
Does ANYBODY think daylight savings time is a GOOD idea?

I much prefer day light savings time to winter time.. I'd rather have my daylight at
the end of the day, instead of in the morning.. Dark at 5 sucks.. When I was in elementary
school, we got out at 3:10, my bus dropped me off at home at 3:35, and it was dark about 15 minutes
later.. It SUCKED!!!!!!

Where I live now, the only drawback I see is kids waiting for the school bus.. Elementary schools
here start early, then the mid schools and the high schools later (opposite of how I grew up), but
they are basically standing out in the dark right now as it is.

I like working before sun up, so I'd love day light savings all year round. I like my daylight
at the end of the day, when I can enjoy it.

Ries · Oct 22, 2018

I cant believe there are still people who have so little to do that they get upset about daylight savings time. I live in a rural farming area, and the farmers like it. But, seriously- most people use their phones to tell time, which automatically adjust so you dont even have to reset them when the time changes.
I do reset the clocks on 3 cars and a couple of older clocks in my house, takes 15 minutes.
Other than that, its a complete non-issue in my life.

Arent ChemTrails scarier that Daylight Savings Time?

Mark Rand · Oct 22, 2018

Is there something deep in human nature that makes us get up an hour later than we should? Permanent daylight saving time is an insane idea. If folks want a fixed time, then Just keep noon and midnight at 12 o'clock instead of 1 o'clock and have everyone get up at the right time...

DDoug · Oct 22, 2018

Ries said:
I cant believe there are still people who have so little to do that they get upset about daylight savings time. I live in a rural farming area, and the farmers like it. But, seriously- most people use their phones to tell time, which automatically adjust so you dont even have to reset them when the time changes.
I do reset the clocks on 3 cars and a couple of older clocks in my house, takes 15 minutes.
Other than that, its a complete non-issue in my life.

Arent ChemTrails scarier that Daylight Savings Time?

I don't think the complaints are about climbing up to re-adjust clocks
twice a year...More that when they must show up for WORK.

Those of us that must punch a time clock. Self employed/retired just
keep plugging along.

Employers could counteract it, by moving employees start/end times 1 hour forward
in the winter, to negate the "official" time change.

Whysosharp · Oct 22, 2018

This is silly but i guess not much makes sense in California to begin with

Larry Dickman · Oct 22, 2018

Whysosharp said:
This is silly but i guess not much makes sense in California to begin with

it makes perfect sense when you consider what assholes are running the state (into the ground) :nutter:

Bill D · Oct 22, 2018

Actually reading the proposition it is not clear what it will do. It just allows the legislature to decide by 2/3 vote what they want to do. They could drop DST completely, keep it the same, go year round or I suppose double it.
Bill

Milacron · Oct 22, 2018

Solution is a compromise...alter the time permanently by 30 minutes.

5 axis Fidia guy · Oct 22, 2018

When told the reason for daylight saving time the old Indian said…
‘Only a white man would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket and sew it to the bottom of a blanket and have a longer blanket.’

Miguels244 · Oct 22, 2018

The problem is the idea of incremental time.
Once the clock...then the time clock, was invented this sort of misery was destined to happen.
Same for electric lights and air conditioning.

Peter. · Oct 22, 2018

Sunlight causes cancer doesn't it? I'm surprised they want to save more of it.

Bill D · Oct 22, 2018

Do other countries do daylight savings time, like for instance Denmark?
Bill D

Peter. · Oct 22, 2018

Bill D said:
Do other countries do daylight savings time, like for instance Denmark?
Bill D

Yep most of Europe including us in the UK use it.

PeteM · Oct 22, 2018

It's not a big deal either way. California's proposition system is both a very real expression of democracy and a system too easily coopted by special interests and wingnuts. By and large most stuff gets voted down. Still, we have done some pretty good things -- via propositions -- that might not otherwise have happened.

This proposition doesn't actually switch us to permanent Daylight Saving time -- it just let's the legislature do so if there are the votes to do it.

Used to be -- back when farming was the #1 profession -- that people wanted natural light early in the morning. Now that industry, office jobs, truckers, sales clerks and the like are the vast majority -- there's some sense to have light later in the day. It could save a bit of energy, maybe make later risers a bit happier to not have dark descending at 5pm.

Not much really changes either way -- the Indian blanket analogy is pretty good.

9100 · Oct 22, 2018

The whole idea is ridiculous. AM means anti-meridian and PM means post-meridian, the meridian is straight overhead. The times should be left where their meaning defines them. If you want to start work an hour earlier and whoever makes the decisions agrees, then start at 7 AM instead of 8, or whatever time you normally start. Stores can post summer hours or not as they chose.

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