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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    1160/3208 don't have a great reputation. They don't like sustained load under turbo boost.

    IH DT466 was built to compete/dominate the same market 3208 was used in and it did with 30% less displacement. The most desirable DT engines used Bosch fuel systems. Cummins C8.3 came a bit later and does a fair job as well.
    Dt466 was a well built motor that was used for many years. We have a 98 fire truck with a 8.3 cummins, 300 hp I believe. It's a slug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    Dt466 was a well built motor that was used for many years. We have a 98 fire truck with a 8.3 cummins, 300 hp I believe. It's a slug.
    How much does it weigh? I have driven a pumper with a 3208/MT41 weighing 18k empty. No thank you sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    How much does it weigh? I have driven a pumper with a 3208/MT41 weighing 18k empty. No thank you sir.
    I weighed it at 38k with a full tank of 1250 gallons, even empty its just slow. Granted it's a truck not a car, but it tops out at 65 and hit a hill and it struggles.

    On the other hand we have a 09 freight shaker with a 435 mb/dd engine that scales at 48k full and its quite the mover...drain the 2750 gallons and it's surprisingly quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    I weighed it at 38k with a full tank of 1250 gallons, even empty its just slow. Granted it's a truck not a car, but it tops out at 65 and hit a hill and it struggles.

    On the other hand we have a 09 freight shaker with a 435 mb/dd engine that scales at 48k full and its quite the mover...drain the 2750 gallons and it's surprisingly quick.
    That's way too much weight for an 8.3. Who spec'd that truck??? an 8.3 has around 600 lb/ft @ 1500. That's very slow going in a 30K lb rig.

    435 DD makes 1550 Lb/FT @ 1200 RPM.

    Massive difference in powerplants there. 8.3 should not be in a chassis grossing over 26k unless it's a crane, concrete pump or an armored truck or something nobody cares if it's the slowest thing on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    That's way too much weight for an 8.3. Who spec'd that truck??? an 8.3 has around 600 lb/ft @ 1500. That's very slow going in a 30K lb rig.

    435 DD makes 1550 Lb/FT @ 1200 RPM.

    Massive difference in powerplants there. 8.3 should not be in a chassis grossing over 26k unless it's a crane, concrete pump or an armored truck or something nobody cares if it's the slowest thing on the road.
    Our last 2 trucks were spec'd by retards...I think ours is 300hp 860 ft/lb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garwood View Post
    IH DT466 was built to compete/dominate the same market 3208 was used in and it did with 30% less displacement. The most desirable DT engines used Bosch fuel systems. Cummins C8.3 came a bit later and does a fair job as well.
    IH trucks with the DT466 were hot on the used market, I was told it was because it had wet sleeves and could be inframed inexpensively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plastikdreams View Post
    Our last 2 trucks were spec'd by retards...I think ours is 300hp 860 ft/lb
    It's done to win bids for the lowest cost.

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    The DT 466 was a great motor....ours were replacement for the previous years Cummins VT 555,possibly the worst POS ever put in a truck.....except for the Cummins V 185,which was an even worse POS.....The DT466 was a German designed tractor motor,which also went well in trucks......only 210hp,which would nt suit many here.......However ,sleepy joe is set to put all your gas guzzlers on the scrapheap.....hows a 1500cc pickup sound .....the first Ford Couriers were 1500cc,as were the first Hi Luxes......Ford used to call them "little buzz boxes" in the Ford F series. ads in the 70s.


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