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Shop that can handle Heat Treat, Grinding, Machining, parts from small to large

Machinistsss

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I am currently searching for shops on the east coast US specifically near PA that can handle Machining, Heat Treat, Grinding, Powder Coat/Black Oxide, parts from small to large.

Are there any shops you would recommend that are experts in the industry? I am starting a line of products that will be very big if all goes well.
Small parts would be around 1-12" with large parts being upwards of 30' possibly (think VTL sized)

That have various certifications and do rigorous inspection in house for dimensional accuracy.

If you or someone you know can point me in their direction I would appreciate it, I have a lot of work to send their way if it is the right fit.


Thank you
 
Does anyone recommend anyone nationwide? Looking for a done in one shop that is iso9001 certified. The big parts would need turned and possibly ground. But even a shop that can do the aforementioned up to 36" would be great.
 
Certainly, there are shops that can grind most anything. Likely you would need be more specific in your need.
Are you looking for flat grinding, radius, special form or contour?
Perhaps show a sample part that would display the kind of machining, grinding your part deign needs with not showing the invention if it is secret.
 
The problem is not a lot of shops do all that in-house anymore. Those days are mostly over. Most actual machine shops these days will sub the work like black oxide or heat treatment out to specialists unless it's very small stuff. Even then most of the time.
 
I agree with Red James and eKret. You are unlikely to find all of that under one roof. A well equipped job shop might be your best bet but then they might not want to do production work that would tie up all their resources so they couldn't service their regular customers. I would recommend going to a Design-2-Part show in your area. Next one seems to be in October. Design-2-Part Trade Shows | See The Best Manufacturers Face-to-Face at the Region's Largest Contract Manufacturing Trade Show D2P shows are the best way I can think of for finding what you need all in one place.

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The problem is not a lot of shops do all that in-house anymore. Those days are mostly over. Most actual machine shops these days will sub the work like black oxide or heat treatment out to specialists unless it's very small stuff. Even then most of the time.

This is the info I am after, I machine parts day in and day out, but never needed heat treat etc. because mostly exotic alloys.
What I am releasing this year will need a full scale manufacturing plant, I would think someone is doing it all somewhere in the nation.
John Saunders visits some pretty cool business's on his tours, nobody knows of anyplace with serious capacity that does it all?
I know of shops that do heat treat only etc., but it's not realistic for my parts to visit 5 stops on the way to the consumer.

Contract manufacturing is what I am looking to source.
 
This is the info I am after, I machine parts day in and day out, but never needed heat treat etc. because mostly exotic alloys.
What I am releasing this year will need a full scale manufacturing plant, I would think someone is doing it all somewhere in the nation.
John Saunders visits some pretty cool business's on his tours, nobody knows of anyplace with serious capacity that does it all?
I know of shops that do heat treat only etc., but it's not realistic for my parts to visit 5 stops on the way to the consumer.

Contract manufacturing is what I am looking to source.

This is much more common than you think, there is a reason they call it a supply chain
 
I don't think you're going to find one shop that can do it all for parts between 1 inch and 30 feet. Some of the shops that deal with the big stuff are all-in-one, but only for that size range. They'll have welding, stress relief, large machining, sandblast, and paint in house. They're not set up to deal with finicky heat treat of small parts. They can do small machining, but it's ancillary to the big stuff.

The few shops I've been to that handle the full size range focus on machining. They would send out your parts for heat treat, coating, etc.
 
Vertical integration just isn't done here anymore. There are small shops overseas that specialize in certain things like small precision shafts, that have grinding, heat treating and Harperizing all under one roof. Don't know about big stuff.
 
I don't think you're going to find one shop that can do it all for parts between 1 inch and 30 feet. Some of the shops that deal with the big stuff are all-in-one, but only for that size range. They'll have welding, stress relief, large machining, sandblast, and paint in house. They're not set up to deal with finicky heat treat of small parts. They can do small machining, but it's ancillary to the big stuff.

The few shops I've been to that handle the full size range focus on machining. They would send out your parts for heat treat, coating, etc.

Sourcing a place to have it all done in one up to 12" then, anyplace come to mind?

The big parts would be a specialty thing, I actually have two small pieces right now out of 416 SS that need heat treat and flat ground for our existing business.
 
I dont understand the necessity of having it all done in house. We do machining, grinding, and edm in house. Heat treat and plating we sub contract. But the vendors we use are within 15 miles. Courier parts over, day or two turn, then inspect and ship. Cost and lead times to the end user would be the same if we did everything in house.
 
Generally a shop that does everything you want in house has there own product line and they do this to have complete control over their supply chain. They will not put someone else's products in front of their own.

The design 2 part trade shows are what you need to attend. You can find a machining shop that will handle the secondary ops that are subbed out themselves. You would still only deal with the 1 shop even though they send your parts out for finishing.

Its just the way it is done these days. Let the professionals do what they do and stick to your own skills.
 
Sourcing a place to have it all done in one up to 12" then, anyplace come to mind?

The big parts would be a specialty thing, I actually have two small pieces right now out of 416 SS that need heat treat and flat ground for our existing business.

I have been in purchasing for over twenty years and have been dealing with subcontracting for over 15. I can honestly say that the only shops I have talked to that do all in house, are typically larger OEM's tha has purchased companies to build there capacities, and they do not accept out side work,.

As an example I have it on good source, that Swagelok actually purchased several companies including a steel mill , just so they can control their own product from start to finish , but as stated they do not do work for anyone else . I also know as of last year they are still outsourcing some painting and other finish work, but they plan to bring that in house as well.

Typically you are going to find most shops do not want to deal with everything, it is just to much of a hassle, and not totally profitable, their is always one division bring the others down. I think you need to find two or three good suppliers willing to do the work and have them subcontract out the specialty processes. You still get everything from one shop sorta , and they are responsible for everything until it hits your door.

Our shop can certainly handle the small parts, and possible some of the middle sizes. I will send you an email with my contact. We can at least look at the small parts you have now. I may also have a lead on another ship to do larger parts for you depending on the type of work
 
I was reading down the replies and just about to type what cstrickland already did. Companies that still do it all most probably aren't going to take your work. They have too much of their own already. They might do a job here or there but they don't want to be someone else's production line. If they are going to make an entire product in house from start to finish they might just as well reap the profits rather than letting someone else do it off their backs.

If you want that sort of capability at any kind of capacity, you're going to have to either use multiple suppliers or start your own production facility.
 
I was reading down the replies and just about to type what cstrickland already did. Companies that still do it all most probably aren't going to take your work. They have too much of their own already. They might do a job here or there but they don't want to be someone else's production line. If they are going to make an entire product in house from start to finish they might just as well reap the profits rather than letting someone else do it off their backs.

If you want that sort of capability at any kind of capacity, you're going to have to either use multiple suppliers or start your own production facility.

I agree, but it still doesn't hurt to ask. I will most likely be my own production facility down the road, but I would have to grow into that. We never finance more then one large purchase at a time. Obviously I want full control over what I produce, I have years of intellectual property into the products. A company can't "reap the profits" unless they have A. work and B. something people want to buy.

With everything going on today I would think there would be interest in working.
 
A company can't "reap the profits" unless they have A. work and B. something people want to buy.

With everything going on today I would think there would be interest in working.

I've already said that. Which is why you won't find someone who has all that capacity just sitting there with their dicks in their hands waiting for you to bring them something to do...
 








 
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