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Source for #3-48 machine screw in aluminum?

WizardOfBoz

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I realize that this is kind of overspecified. But I'm trying to corner the highly lucrative slide rule repair market. Pickett rules of a certain vintage use this size screw to hold the thing together.

Oh yeah, if the screw were of the slotted mushroom head type, it would be great.

Yes, I know: it's cheaper to buy another slide rule. But I thought I'd ask.

Thanks.
 
Sounds like a job for a guy who specialises in small batches of oddball screws etc etc ..............I'd put an RFQ in the commerce section

Or get yourself a small turret lathe and a 3 - 48 button die.
 
Yeah, they're aluminum in the original. I could use steel or stainless or brass, but that makes it a "Frankenrule". Here's a pic. It's the screw holding the top "stator" bar in the upper left, to the left of the +LL1/-LL1 markings. It's a very flat mushroom head, which makes it weak, so when the previous owner overtorqued it....
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If you don't need many, it would be cheaper to just buy some more slide rules on eBay, maybe in beater condition, then to make them. I'd bet Pickett had them custom made and you won't find any really correct replacement.
 
If you don't need many, it would be cheaper to just buy some more slide rules on eBay, maybe in beater condition, then to make them. I'd bet Pickett had them custom made and you won't find any really correct replacement.

You mean Home Despot doesn't stock them? :(

I think that you're right, Conrad. Problem is, folks are proud of their little metal anachronisms - even in "beater" condition.
 
Aluminumfasteners.com lists down to #4 in their catalog. Not a #3, but it might be worth giving them a call none the less. I wouldn't think modifying the head would take all that long if you had a larger head, assuming you only need one or two.
 
Bosley, I figured I'd have to wait at least 100 years old before slide rules were worth anything. You telling me I'm already sitting on a gold (or at least bauxite) mine?
 
You know it is only a Pickett. My Post Versalog was way nicer with a bamboo frame. I replaced it with a HP45 in 1972. I still have the HP45 and it still works!
 
Bosley, I figured I'd have to wait at least 100 years old before slide rules were worth anything. You telling me I'm already sitting on a gold (or at least bauxite) mine?

Depends, Pete. Some better slide rules fetch a hundred bucks or more. The Faber Castell 2/83N is a standard (very high end, but popular) rule in that category. Most slide rules are 25cm (called "10 inch" here in the remote colonies). For extra readability and accuracy, many models were offered in a 50cm size. Sometimes these longer versions go for 100 bucks. Other rules go for much less. A Post Versalog (one of the best, and most common slide rules) or a Keuffel Esser Log Log Duplex Decitrig (another very common, but good one) can go for ten to 50 bucks on ebay. So there is still some value.

Some rules had unstable material (Pickett used magnesium for early rules, which corroded, and Keuffel Esser cursor's are notorious for this, having "KERCS", that is, Keuffel Esser Rotting Cursor Disease) but most rules are pretty stable.

I got hooked into this a bit a couple of months ago. My stepfather was dying (he's since passed away) and I was at the house and found his Post Versalog manual. I do a lot of computer work (a calculator doesn't cut it anymore for what I do) and got interested in the logic of solving problems on a slide rule. All the different scales do different things, and different rules have different sets of scales. To solve problems efficiently, you have to come up with a plan. And the plan can use clever knowledge of math. Somewhat like coding.

So to solve for the hypotenuse of a triangle, sqr root( a^2 + b^2), on a calculator you just mash in a, square it, enter b, square it, add it, and take the root. Easier on an HP RPN machine I think, but it's pretty straightforward.

Slide rules do multiplication, division, roots, trig functions, and functions using logs. But no adding or substraction. On one type of slide rule, you'd divide a by b, square it. mentally add 1, take the square root, and multiply by b to get the answer. On another type of slide rule you'd divide a by b, get the arc tangent of that ratio, and use trig identities to get the answer efficiently. And on some slide rules, there was a "P" scale that stood for "Pythagorean", which allowed you to get the answer more directly. But these approaches are all algorithms - programs - that really smart guys and some gals used to do stuff like design the first computer, the Saturn V, the SR-71, the Golden Gate bridge, and the Boeing 747. Also, too, probably the HP-35!

So, for some of us, the rules represent 300 years of ingenious manufacturing and design and use, but also the bridge to the modern computer era.

Here's a variation on the slide rule when you make a very long rule and wrap it around a cylinder to get improved accuracy:

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Gary, As I said, I got into this a few months ago because of a Versalog manual, and my stepfather's handwritten corrections to the manual!

I was in the last engineering class at Wisconsin that had to buy slide rules, and bought an HP-35 for myself very early. It suffered from rough use, so I got an HP21c. It also succumbed. I then got an HP 15c. Still have that. I'm jealous of your HP45, as that's the one I wanted back in the day. Currently also have the HP 50g, but the use of that calculator (its more a pocket computer) is nowhere near as intuitive as the HP35 or 45.

As for the Post/K&E/Pickett/Castell/Aristo argument, I think that the time for partisanship probably ended in about 1973, yes? I have about 20 slide rules and they're all interesting. That said, it was a Pickett slide rule that accompanied the Apollo astronauts during their missions. :D
 
got to love HP calculators
21, 11c and now a new model 35s.
11c was my favorite really sad when it died,
powerful long battery life and would fit in a shirt pocket,
what not to like?

wonder if the market would support about $10 a screw?

never actually owned a slip stick
 
I actually worked with a lady, gorgeous blonde with a fabulous figure. Oops got off track! Her dad owned a slide rule company and sold it just before the introduction of the scientific calculator. Perfect timing.
 
You have to be able to adjust the relative position of the stator bar. The top bar has to be aligned so that its markings are lined up with the bottom stator, and the top stator has to be adjusted so that you have an easy sliding fit for the slider bar, with very little play. Glue would be a no-no.
 








 
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