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    Perhaps ironically, one of the most used level instruments I have is cut out of an Empire Level combination square head . . . a PLASTIC combination square head.

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    Thanks for the photo instructions, I'll give it a go....

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    I managed to post two photos, in my albums. Can anyone tell me how to get the plug/screw out?
    Someone must have one of these? Also interested in buying a replacement level vial and a scriber. But I don’t want to break the bank. I’m retired but still use many of my machinist tools for my other hobbies

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    Just to save you all the headache:

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    It looks like this is an old set, should be able to just unscrew the plug. Make sure you use a screwdriver that fits the slot tightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eKretz View Post
    Just to save you all the headache:

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    It looks like this is an old set, should be able to just unscrew the plug. Make sure you use a screwdriver that fits the slot tightly.
    I have tried, does not budge. I may try heating it with a torch at the risk of the paint/coating getting burned. Maybe I should just forget it since the vial seems too difficult to find. Even if I do find one, the install sounds a little tricky. Still also looking for a replacement scriber...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spotcheem View Post
    I have tried, does not budge. I may try heating it with a torch at the risk of the paint/coating getting burned. Maybe I should just forget it since the vial seems too difficult to find. Even if I do find one, the install sounds a little tricky. Still also looking for a replacement scriber...
    None of the parts are difficult to find, and you’ve been told several times where to find them.

    You can get a new level vial from Starrett.

    You can get a new scriber from Starrett.

    You can even get a new brass scriber sleeve from Starrett.

    None of them will be very expensive. And they will fit.

    Starrett’s repair services are not particularly cheap, but they are fair considering that you will get back a like-new head at less than the cost of a new one. If that’s over your budget, you can do it yourself. If Starrett does it, the accuracy will be spot on. If you do it, it will be up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnMartin View Post
    None of the parts are difficult to find, and you’ve been told several times where to find them.

    You can get a new level vial from Starrett.

    You can get a new scriber from Starrett.

    You can even get a new brass scriber sleeve from Starrett.

    None of them will be very expensive. And they will fit.

    Starrett’s repair services are not particularly cheap, but they are fair considering that you will get back a like-new head at less than the cost of a new one. If that’s over your budget, you can do it yourself. If Starrett does it, the accuracy will be spot on. If you do it, it will be up to you.
    Thanks John, I guess I will put this to rest...

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    Or use a pick to bend the existing brass sleeve back to normal.



    Quote Originally Posted by spotcheem View Post
    Most have a brass sleeve in the hole where the scriber goes. Either replace the worn out sleeve, or add a new brass shim stock sleeve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EPAIII View Post
    Or use a pick to bend the existing brass sleeve back to normal.
    Or, pull it out by threading a screw into it, deform it a bit with a pair of pliers and push it back in.

    Or, when you order a replacement scriber from Starrett, ask them to throw in a new sleeve or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmagpie View Post
    I have a few Starrett combination squares. And I have ordered replacement scribers. Each one has been a bit too small. I need a way to very slightly increase the apparent size of the scribers (by definition harder than the gates of Hades). Ideas?
    A few years back a whole bunch of new 12" Starrett squares showed up on eBay from a company that bought a lot of them, but the project they intended to use them on went belly up. So I bought one each for my brother and me. They were brand new but the scribes fit too loosely and they could easily fall out. So. I bored out the hole they went into a skosh and found a tiny o-ring to fit in the hole. Then I turned a steel bushing to press into the hole to retain the o-ring. Works great---the carbide scribe is just a very nice secure fit but still slides in and out smoothly easily for use. I kinda pat myself on the back each time I use it. which is daily. It is a little fiddly to find the o-ring and turn the bushing. But it is a near perfect solution.

    Denis

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    I'd toss in a bit of mahogany dowel and call it a day.
    Maybe paint in a nice black bubble to confuse the uninitiated.
    I don't think I have ever once used the level in a Starrett square.

    I must have four or five of these from my grandfathers kit on forward- some have the bulb and scriber others not.
    Maybe its just me but if I need a level I grab one- I also have more levels than any sane persons needs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by EPAIII View Post
    Or use a pick to bend the existing brass sleeve back to normal.
    My brass sleeve is fine, look at post #11 which was from metal magpie, he is the one with scriber fit problems, not me.


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