Hello, I just bought this Toyo ML-210 lathe. I had been looking for a micro lathe for some time, and this was a good find for me. Unfortunately it does not have the automatic feed, which I would really like to have. I got a good deal on the machine because he told me there was auto feed, but when I got there, it was either missing or was never there.
I bought the machine, and when i took it home the condition was super super spectacular. It was purchased in Christmas of 1987 at Busy Bee tools in Canada. It apparently was used a single time in 1987 to turn some aluminum, and then put away back into the box since then.
I have been scouring the web, trying to find sources for purchasing these accessories for the lathe, and have been out of luck. I certainly cannot find any of the original Toyo parts, but i did find this Korean site that has all the accessories listed for the MANIX ML-210 lathe, which i believe is identical.
I think I'll have a bunch of questions, so I'll put them in bold so they can be easily referred to.
MANIX machine tools
They have this picture which shows all the accessories, but there hasn't been any way to contact them, but surely the parts are being produced somewhere?
I'm most interested in the Auto feed attachment, as well as the taper turning attachment. If any of you guys know where I could source some of these, I would be very interested.
I was thinking of making something myself for the auto feed, I dont think i would be trying to replicate the original design, i think it is worm and wheel, and gets power via a pulley. I think I would be doing something like a stepper motor directly coupled to the lead screw, with a pot and some programming to adjust its direction and speed.
I would be open to any other suggestions as to how to get auto feed on this machine! I don't really think I would need the thread turning attachment, or the capability to turn threads, I will mostly be using dies, or threading on other machines.
But I am interesting in being able to have some kind of auto feed.
The tail stock is a truncated Morse taper 1. The lathe came with a dead center, and I was able to find a live center, and i ground off the skinny end of the taper to match the needed length, so I now have a small live center as well.
I am looking for a drill chuck for this lathe, and MT1 small drill chucks are readily available on amazon and similar. None of them are short tapers, they all have the full 3 inch taper.
Is grinding the taper to length my only option? I didn't feel super guilty doing it to that old live center i found, but it might hurt a bit more doing it to a brand new chuck and taper, especially because I have another machine that takes MT1. But if this is the only way, i don't mind doing this.
I will be grinding off the tang though, so will this be a problem? The chuck will only be held in the tailstock via friction, is this enough for this size of machine?
And my last question (I think) is if any of you guys know of a suitable quick change tool post for this machine? I'm not super sure on what I need to look up, or what specs i need to follow to find a suitable tool post.
And now here are some pictures of my machine.
Oh one last thing, What is a suitable oil for the moving parts of the machine? I do use way lube on my other larger machines, but I am not sure that's the best option for this small machine. I was thinking of using STARRETT Tool and Instrument oil, but perhaps this is too thin for this application? Maybe i should just use way oil for the ways? This machine will be mostly indoors, and i do have the smell of the TONNA 32 I have.
Maybe I need a couple different types of oil? I have squeaky cleaned the lead screw, but do not know what I should use for this. Does the fact that it is not acme, but is a V-thread, make a difference as to what lube I should use? And I assume i would use the same thing for the tailstock feed as i would for the lead screw.
Also I am not sure what to use for the scroll chuck. I won't use anything thick or grease like, but is the STARRETT instrument oil sufficient for lubrication? I will be using the STARRETT oil for anywhere that just needs rust protection and not real lubrication.
Anyway some pictures. These are before I cleaned the machine, but you can tell the condition is remarkable.
The following picture is of where the auto feed attaches and drives the lead screw. I was thinking of coupling to it directly with some kind of speed controllable motor.
Thanks for reading if you got to the end, I know I asked lots of questions.
I bought the machine, and when i took it home the condition was super super spectacular. It was purchased in Christmas of 1987 at Busy Bee tools in Canada. It apparently was used a single time in 1987 to turn some aluminum, and then put away back into the box since then.
I have been scouring the web, trying to find sources for purchasing these accessories for the lathe, and have been out of luck. I certainly cannot find any of the original Toyo parts, but i did find this Korean site that has all the accessories listed for the MANIX ML-210 lathe, which i believe is identical.
I think I'll have a bunch of questions, so I'll put them in bold so they can be easily referred to.
MANIX machine tools
They have this picture which shows all the accessories, but there hasn't been any way to contact them, but surely the parts are being produced somewhere?
I'm most interested in the Auto feed attachment, as well as the taper turning attachment. If any of you guys know where I could source some of these, I would be very interested.
I was thinking of making something myself for the auto feed, I dont think i would be trying to replicate the original design, i think it is worm and wheel, and gets power via a pulley. I think I would be doing something like a stepper motor directly coupled to the lead screw, with a pot and some programming to adjust its direction and speed.
I would be open to any other suggestions as to how to get auto feed on this machine! I don't really think I would need the thread turning attachment, or the capability to turn threads, I will mostly be using dies, or threading on other machines.
But I am interesting in being able to have some kind of auto feed.
The tail stock is a truncated Morse taper 1. The lathe came with a dead center, and I was able to find a live center, and i ground off the skinny end of the taper to match the needed length, so I now have a small live center as well.
I am looking for a drill chuck for this lathe, and MT1 small drill chucks are readily available on amazon and similar. None of them are short tapers, they all have the full 3 inch taper.
Is grinding the taper to length my only option? I didn't feel super guilty doing it to that old live center i found, but it might hurt a bit more doing it to a brand new chuck and taper, especially because I have another machine that takes MT1. But if this is the only way, i don't mind doing this.
I will be grinding off the tang though, so will this be a problem? The chuck will only be held in the tailstock via friction, is this enough for this size of machine?
And my last question (I think) is if any of you guys know of a suitable quick change tool post for this machine? I'm not super sure on what I need to look up, or what specs i need to follow to find a suitable tool post.
And now here are some pictures of my machine.
Oh one last thing, What is a suitable oil for the moving parts of the machine? I do use way lube on my other larger machines, but I am not sure that's the best option for this small machine. I was thinking of using STARRETT Tool and Instrument oil, but perhaps this is too thin for this application? Maybe i should just use way oil for the ways? This machine will be mostly indoors, and i do have the smell of the TONNA 32 I have.
Maybe I need a couple different types of oil? I have squeaky cleaned the lead screw, but do not know what I should use for this. Does the fact that it is not acme, but is a V-thread, make a difference as to what lube I should use? And I assume i would use the same thing for the tailstock feed as i would for the lead screw.
Also I am not sure what to use for the scroll chuck. I won't use anything thick or grease like, but is the STARRETT instrument oil sufficient for lubrication? I will be using the STARRETT oil for anywhere that just needs rust protection and not real lubrication.
Anyway some pictures. These are before I cleaned the machine, but you can tell the condition is remarkable.
The following picture is of where the auto feed attaches and drives the lead screw. I was thinking of coupling to it directly with some kind of speed controllable motor.
Thanks for reading if you got to the end, I know I asked lots of questions.