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What all are the methods used for pipeline integrity?

Rechard M

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Hey folks,
I'm working in an oil field, one of the huge pipes in our industry that need rust removal. I think pipeline integrity is one of the best options to provide them new life. We are planning to hire any company that provide pipeline integrity for our metal pipes. I found a company that specializes in pipeline integrity. Should we focus on any criteria before hiring a professional company that offers pipeline integrity?
What all are the methods used for pipeline integrity?
 
What all are the methods used for pipeline integrity?

Bury the f****r. Really deep.

Same as the ones that distribute stupid juice to Kalifornikya.

You have to get UNDER the tectonic plates, y'see.

Anything shallower just doesn't last and then some of the zombies miss their dose and escape to Texas or Idaho and must be replaced by Canadian Socialist idiots.

Not a BAD outcome.

It manages to raise the average IQ in two countries with each go, after all.
 
Supposedly...the pipelines give off heat, which causes the elk and meece to gravitate toward them. Then, a hunter sees the animals and takes a shot with a high-powered rifle. He misses and hits the pipeline, which creates a 1/2" hole that sprays a stream of goo-goo out 20 or 30 yards. So the pipeline crews are well versed in fixing bullet holes.....
 
Supposedly...the pipelines give off heat, which causes the elk and meece to gravitate toward them. Then, a hunter sees the animals and takes a shot with a high-powered rifle. He misses and hits the pipeline, which creates a 1/2" hole that sprays a stream of goo-goo out 20 or 30 yards. So the pipeline crews are well versed in fixing bullet holes.....

It's a real fact. it's in the book about the Alyeska pipeline.

Remember the oil comes out of the ground.
 
API, American Petroleum Institute, publishes many specifications on pipeline requirements, including the repair of line pipe used for pipelines. They also cover things like weight loss corrosion from rust, chemicals, etc. They also cover acceptable methods of removing rust and the grading of pipe after cleaning. Your company needs to hire someone that is very knowledgeable in this area and your company really needs to become API certified to be doing this type of work. It's a lot more involved that one may think it is. That piece of pipe has to be certified to a standard before it can be put in the ground now days! Ken
 
"Remember the oil comes out of the ground."

That doesn't fit the narrative!!!

Environmental stupidity.....years ago, even, one of the big oil companies was running a process the make a specialty grade carbon fiber. They needed a huge amount of water as a coolant...just plain water. They built an outdoor man-made retention pond...a big one. The idea was they would circulate the water through a bank of stainless steel heat exchangers then return it to the pond in a continous loop. Worked great...until the EPA came in and said they had to treat any and all water that was being put into an outside, open air facility. The company pointed out the water was rainwater in the firstplace and was picking up no sort of contaminants or pollutants...the only thing it ever touched was SS piping and coolers. Didn't matter - the geniuses at the EPA were on a mission.

The costs of treating that much water were studied and in the end...the processes was abandoned and 52 people laid off.
 
"Remember the oil comes out of the ground."

That doesn't fit the narrative!!!

Environmental stupidity.....years ago, even, one of the big oil companies was running a process the make a specialty grade carbon fiber. They needed a huge amount of water as a coolant...just plain water. They built an outdoor man-made retention pond...a big one. The idea was they would circulate the water through a bank of stainless steel heat exchangers then return it to the pond in a continous loop. Worked great...until the EPA came in and said they had to treat any and all water that was being put into an outside, open air facility. The company pointed out the water was rainwater in the firstplace and was picking up no sort of contaminants or pollutants...the only thing it ever touched was SS piping and coolers. Didn't matter - the geniuses at the EPA were on a mission.

The costs of treating that much water were studied and in the end...the processes was abandoned and 52 people laid off.

Meaning it was at about 52f, and the air surrounding the pipeline is ?

IIRC the book stated the temp was closer to 90f, so pipeline length changes are a real problem.

What point your trying to make escapes me.
 
let me know.... i fucking own... 1/2 acre of the pipeline... an EASEMENT. like it does me any good at all...
i get to pay property tax on it, can't use it for anything . it's like the dead whore stuffed into the
mattress of the retractable sleeper couch. a useless burden... can't even put a swingset there...

i think they should be required to own their own pipeland ... kinda' like a "buyback" program .
 
let me know.... i fucking own... 1/2 acre of the pipeline... an EASEMENT. like it does me any good at all...
i get to pay property tax on it, can't use it for anything . it's like the dead whore stuffed into the
mattress of the retractable sleeper couch. a useless burden... can't even put a swingset there...

i think they should be required to own their own pipeland ... kinda' like a "buyback" program .
Pipelines are my career, if you want help on how to deal with this I'd love to contribute.

I can't tell you how many acres of farmland (meaning planted/harvested crops) cover our lines with no effect.

I know this is a spam thread, but I have an 11 year background in pipelines and IMP (integrity management planning) is part of it. So is landowner engagement. :)
 
Pipelines are my career, if you want help on how to deal with this I'd love to contribute.

I can't tell you how many acres of farmland (meaning planted/harvested crops) cover our lines with no effect.

I know this is a spam thread, but I have an 11 year background in pipelines and IMP (integrity management planning) is part of it. So is landowner engagement. :)

1. Run them along the highways....IE "Public Land".
2. Remove the ability to use "Eminent Domain" for utilities.
 
Damn, you really hate affordable energy that bad?

No, I don't like that excuse being used to trample on private property rights.
Your Texas oil cowboys came up here for the Marcellus boom, and ran pipelines all over, including thru peoples properties that received NO profit from the marcellus gas.

It don't cost that much more to run the pipeline along roads, and pay the owners price for land when you cannot follow roads.
Not putting a federal agents gun to their head.

And your pump/compressor stations ? Just take 100-200 acres, pay squat for it.
No need to keep noise levels down, it's "in the country".

Unless you live next to it, owned your land for generations, worked hard for it, paid taxes every year on it.

Your industry could do it better/right, and it wouldn't cost that much more, but they would rather spend that money on congressmen.

Why don't we run some 345kv powerlines over your house eh ? They aren't hurting anyone (that is a customer, as your not hooked into them), and we all want cheap electrons, cheap, Cheap, CHEAP !


You don't like nor support that constitution thing ?
 
No, I don't like that excuse being used to trample on private property rights.
Your Texas oil cowboys came up here for the Marcellus boom, and ran pipelines all over, including thru peoples properties that received NO profit from the marcellus gas.

It don't cost that much more to run the pipeline along roads, and pay the owners price for land when you cannot follow roads.
Not putting a federal agents gun to their head.

And your pump/compressor stations ? Just take 100-200 acres, pay squat for it.
No need to keep noise levels down, it's "in the country".

Unless you live next to it, owned your land for generations, worked hard for it, paid taxes every year on it.

Your industry could do it better/right, and it wouldn't cost that much more, but they would rather spend that money on congressmen.

Why don't we run some 345kv powerlines over your house eh ? They aren't hurting anyone (that is a customer, as your not hooked into them), and we all want cheap electrons, cheap, Cheap, CHEAP !


You don't like nor support that constitution thing ?
At lunch, will respond in detail when I return.

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let me know.... i fucking own... 1/2 acre of the pipeline... an EASEMENT. like it does me any good at all...
i get to pay property tax on it, can't use it for anything . it's like the dead whore stuffed into the
mattress of the retractable sleeper couch. a useless burden... can't even put a swingset there...

i think they should be required to own their own pipeland ... kinda' like a "buyback" program .

Man that is a bad deal for the property owner. Is that a state thing? We have a 120 foot wide easement across our place almost 4000 feet long. The 2 pipe lines are buried 5 feet deep with a 345KV line in the middle. We still own the easement and pay taxes on it but we can farm and ranch on it. (the land value is diminished some because of the pipe line) One of the pipe line companies has made some additional rules about how close a fence post can be to their pipe line, but I would like to see them try to enforce it when it is not in the contract and is more stringent than federal and state rules. Live stock owners are given some protection from lawsuits if their fence posts are no more than 10 feet apart. Impossible with the pipeline rules so we just ignore them. San Antonio CPS would say they had no pipeline in the area when we needed to trench across it. So we did that many times with no one marking it or checking the depth. Gives you nightmares trenching across a 32 inch high pressure gas pipe. Fed pipeline inspector fixed that problem a couple of years ago now they respond if you need them. The inspector called the 800 number on the post outside a pumping station and was told "we have no pipeline there"!
 
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Why don't we run some 345kv powerlines over your house eh ? They aren't hurting anyone (that is a customer, as your not hooked into them), and we all want cheap electrons, cheap, Cheap, CHEAP !


You don't like nor support that constitution thing ?

It even induces voltage and current in the soil 40 feet away. One of the pipeline companies had a crew test for that and they laid a zinc and steel cable between the pipeline and the transmission line to protect the pipeline from corrosion caused by the induced current. One could build an "antenna" near the pipeline for "free" electricity but that would be illegal theft but it is OK for the pipeline company to do the same thing to protect their pipe.
It was funny watching the pipe line company have to dodge my drinking water and irrigation lines. They also had to dodge 3 480 lines while laying that zinc strip. "Do you want me to kill the power while you do that?" And "now you zinc strip is closer than 8 feet to my fence posts what are we going to do about that?"
 
No, I don't like that excuse being used to trample on private property rights.It's not an excuse, it's the truth. We can lay pipelines for oil/gas/water, or electrical OH's physically anywhere but the customer picks up that tab.
Your Texas oil cowboys came up here for the Marcellus boom, and ran pipelines all over, including thru peoples properties that received NO profit from the marcellus gas.

It don't cost that much more to run the pipeline along roads, and pay the owners price for land when you cannot follow roads.
Not putting a federal agents gun to their head. You do not know of what you speak here, we aim for the shortest feasible route.

And your pump/compressor stations ? Just take 100-200 acres, pay squat for it.
No need to keep noise levels down, it's "in the country".
We pay what the market will bear.

Unless you live next to it, owned your land for generations, worked hard for it, paid taxes every year on it.Who has the minerals? If it's not the surface owner, why should the mineral owner be trapped because surface is being difficult? Who is that fair toward? The laws governing this aren't new, one can read until their eyes bleed on the topic.

Your industry could do it better/right, and it wouldn't cost that much more, but they would rather spend that money on congressmen.Doug, I don't think you realize the cost of these projects. When single line ROW is going for $600-$900 per rod, it doesn't take much additional footage to seriously increase costs.

Why don't we run some 345kv powerlines over your house eh ? They aren't hurting anyone (that is a customer, as your not hooked into them), and we all want cheap electrons, cheap, Cheap, CHEAP ! I grew up living behind high tension lines, I honestly don't see the big deal.


You don't like nor support that constitution thing ?
I deeply support the constitution.

It even induces voltage and current in the soil 40 feet away. One of the pipeline companies had a crew test for that and they laid a zinc and steel cable between the pipeline and the transmission line to protect the pipeline from corrosion caused by the induced current. One could build an "antenna" near the pipeline for "free" electricity but that would be illegal theft but it is OK for the pipeline company to do the same thing to protect their pipe. That is not what it happening. They're building a circuit to aid in the cathodic protection of the pipeline and unlike an illegal inductor, or antenna as you call it, the P/L is most certainly in contact with the elec company about it. Why? Because they both have a very large vested interest in not having a blowout under that line.
It was funny watching the pipe line company have to dodge my drinking water and irrigation lines. They also had to dodge 3 480 lines while laying that zinc strip. "Do you want me to kill the power while you do that?" And "now you zinc strip is closer than 8 feet to my fence posts what are we going to do about that?"


I understand that the pipeline industry has no great reputation, some of that is even well deserved.

However, like I stated above and this goes for any member that reads this, if you feel like you're being screwed by the P/L company contact me and I'll offer you ways to help you out. ROW transactions are very foreign to most people and it's easy for them to not understand what they're agreeing to.

Any 2-bit operator will have a landowner relations page or ROW department. Call them, talk to them, be polite, and I'd wager they will assist you. It behooves them to do so.
 
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Man that is a bad deal for the property owner. Is that a state thing? We have a 120 foot wide easement across our place almost 4000 feet long. The 2 pipe lines are buried 5 feet deep with a 345KV line in the middle. We still own the easement and pay taxes on it but we can farm and ranch on it. (the land value is diminished some because of the pipe line) One of the pipe line companies has made some additional rules about how close a fence post can be to their pipe line, but I would like to see them try to enforce it when it is not in the contract and is more stringent than federal and state rules. Live stock owners are given some protection from lawsuits if their fence posts are no more than 10 feet apart. Impossible with the pipeline rules so we just ignore them. San Antonio CPS would say they had no pipeline in the area when we needed to trench across it. So we did that many times with no one marking it or checking the depth. Gives you nightmares trenching across a 32 inch high pressure gas pipe. Fed pipeline inspector fixed that problem a couple of years ago now they respond if you need them. The inspector called the 800 number on the post outside a pumping station and was told "we have no pipeline there"!
These are all issues that can be cleared up with some communication with the provider. If you want to approach them I will help with what you need to ask.
 








 
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