Thread: O/T problems

Originally Posted by Milland

A friendly note of caution:

We're mostly older, and we're mostly all grumpy machinists and engineers. As such, we're not the most patient or the most forgiving of tomfoolery.

really? I hadn't noticed

Originally Posted by Milland

A friendly note of caution:

If you start getting an attitude, you'll find people will turn nasty quite quickly - it's just our nature. Chill, ignore those that are trying to rile you up, and if machining is your thing, read as many of the forum threads as you can - there's hundreds of lifetimes of education here, just waiting to be read and learned.

That's probably the best advice I have seen. Those who speak softly will get listened to more, than those who rant and rave...

Those that stop to think then speak often are leaders, and often hit the mark.

Originally Posted by woodchuckNJ

just out of curiosity, what class?

a 81 in creative writing

Originally Posted by woodchuckNJ

That's probably the best advice I have seen. Those who speak softly will get listened to more, than those who rant and rave...

Those that stop to think then speak often are leaders, and often hit the mark.

I think it depends on the individual you are trying to motivate, and the circumstance. I personally like people that blurt crap out quickly, as I figure those are their true feelings. The politician that takes a long pause before answering even a simple question, I don't trust what came out of their mouth was genuine.

Originally Posted by scrap maker

a 81 in creative writing

You have my sympathy. Ask the teenage me to write about spaceflight, model aeroplane making, welding, proper use of the hacksaw etc. and I could do a very good essay. Ask me to write about a story involving anything the english teacher could think of and I always failed miserably.

Originally Posted by scrap maker

well it is my parents because i have a 70 in one class and i am not alowed to use my lathe until i get a 95 or higher in every class which is impossible...
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just out of curiosity, what class?
a 81 in creative writing
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now my lowest grade is a 83% and 84% is above average it is really hard to get perfect grades because of covid you cant get the help i could get last year
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all of my grades are above average and i will be grounded until i get 95% in all of my classes because 81% and up is not good for them and they want me to be perfect

Sonny, if you take my advice you will give up all thoughts of machining for a living. With a talent like yours for creative writing and arithmetical obfuscation (look it up)you could make a killing in creative accounting.

If you routinely ignore the convention of starting a sentence with a capital letter and finishing with a full stop (or a period if you are American) and fail to punctuate your sentences in a way appropriate to a twelve-year-old, I am surprised that you achieved as much as 70% for your lowest grade.

Originally Posted by scrap maker

... you cant get the help...

I looked up "cant" in the Cambridge English Dictionary, which says "statements, especially on religious or moral subjects, that are not sincerely believed by the person making them". Verb. Sap., as they say.

George B.

Originally Posted by scrap maker

no, they will get mad and just go and yell even more so i will have to get my grades up and wait until they aren't mad, and my birthday is on saturday so i am trying really hard to get my grades up so that i can buy more tools for my lathe and be allowed to use my lathe,

What kind of job does a 12yo have that earns enough money for lathe tooling?
Something don’t smell right.

I can only buy dinged up tools and the only money I make is from plowing driveways and for Christmas and my birthday.

Originally Posted by Georgineer

If you routinely ignore the convention of starting a sentence with a capital letter and finishing with a full stop (or a period if you are American) and fail to punctuate your sentences in a way appropriate to a twelve-year-old, I am surprised that you achieved as much as 70% for your lowest grade.

With internet forums and You Tube we live in a different world than the one anyone 40+ grew up in. This is now the only online forum I frequent. I used to frequent sports fan forums that did have quite a few people on them under 18. A lot of their talk sent me to the urban dictionary to understand what they meant. It seems misspelling words on purpose is a common undertaking, probably trying to hit one out of the park and get it to catch on. "Teh" is a good example, a purposeful mistyping of "the". While slang has always been around it seems the life span of a slang term is a lot shorter than the days before the internet.

The thing that boggles my mind is the stunts people will pull just to put them on You Tube. I wonder how many injuries yearly would have been prevented if You Tube and similar formats did not exist. Biting into dishwasher detergent pods and filming it was a good example of You Tube fueled stupidity.

Troll Thread.

Originally Posted by scrap maker

well it is my parents because i have a 70 in one class and i am not alowed to use my lathe until i get a 95 or higher in every class which is impossible

Nowhere NEAR "impossible". Not in low-bar Pennsyltucky it ain't.

Start with getting TF OFF internet forums to go get your GRADES UP might help?

Vain hope that folks as have spent the better part of long lives at work that ain't always had any sort of resemblance to a free ride nor "playtime" will get into a disagreement with parents as figure you CAN do better than a "70" and parachute-in out of a fleet of black helicopters to "rescue" you ain't it?

What d'you expect? ANY sort of work needs to get DONE.

"Grades" in formal schooling are the easy part.

You get to know a whole semester in advance exactly what is required to succeed.

Adults seldom have that luxury. We have to adapt to constantly changing circumstances altered by OTHERS each hour as we go.

So we do. BFD.

ELSE..

Drop everything but Industrial Arts class?

I dam' near did that. Only had a few classes not already DONE by Seniour year.

In a PA school.

So I was learning to teach shop class. Or most anything as NEEDED teaching, as it turned out. Made me more money over the years than I'd have ever thought possible, too, that ability.

Originally Posted by scrap maker

I can only buy dinged up tools and the only money I make is from plowing driveways and for Christmas and my birthday.

Go join the Army or Marines.

Bound to take your mind off whining if it don't kill yah.

End of problem, either way.

Originally Posted by Booze Daily

What kind of job does a 12yo have that earns enough money for lathe tooling?

That age?

ISTR it woz a big enuf' struggle maintaining a decent 25-cents at a go inner-tube hot-patch budjit for the bicycle "back in the day".

New tubes wuz for the rich kids as gave yah their old ones to BE hot-patched.

Something don’t smell right.

Either stand further away from it .... or rub Vicks vapo-rub inta yer 'stache.

Originally Posted by thermite

Go join the Army or Marines.

Bound to take your mind off whining if it don't kill yah.

End of problem, either way.

That will be difficult at age 12...

As regards the above message about ignoring negative responses from Milland: to add to that sentiment, there is a saying I discovered as a middle schooler that fits well. "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Mark Twain said that.

Young man, are you currently attending school or are they only doing e-learning where you are? E-learning in some places is very sub-par. When my kids were doing it they had a much more difficult time than when attending school. In that case, I myself had to take the teacher's place and do the work to make sure they understood their schoolwork. It was very time consuming indeed. I'm sorry that your parents either don't have the time or don't care enough to do the same. If I were you, in addition to trying to get as much help from the teacher as possible I would try to keep asking them for help with the work you don't understand. You might also try finding an older fellow student to give you some help. Try asking your teacher or perhaps even the principal to help you find someone if you need to.

Originally Posted by eKretz

As regards the above message about ignoring negative responses from Milland: there is a saying I discovered as a middle schooler that fits well. "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Mark Twain said that.

Not that I shy away from beating on folks on occasion, but the above has me a bit confused. I have likes and posted agreements in this thread, but nothing I see claims "troll" except your quote.

Mind expanding on that, and pointing out the instance (or hell, the continuum) that you're referring to?

Originally Posted by Milland

Not that I shy away from beating on folks on occasion, but the above has me a bit confused. I have likes and posted agreements in this thread, but nothing I see claims "troll" except your quote.

Mind expanding on that, and pointing out the instance (or hell, the continuum) that you're referring to?

From your earlier post:

Chill, ignore those that are trying to rile you up

You've got your spring wound up too tightly for no reason. I wasn't referring to you, but adding to the sentiment you expressed in the latter quote. Yet another example of typing being a pain in the ass vs. speaking in person.

Got it, thanks for the clarification.

Yes, typing has its downsides. On the other hand, I've finally learned how to do more than five words a minute, after practicing for the last thirty years...

I added a bit on edit to make it a little clearer. And yeah, just when I got typing on the computer down, they had to go and invent these infernal phones with their micro keyboards. Having large fingers, they are a giant pain in the ass. And I think I spend more time correcting "auto-correct" corrections than I do typing!

While I do think your parents may be demanding too much expecting 95% in all classes merely getting passing grades will not bode well for your future.

Perhaps once you can prove you have raised all your grades (but still below their demands) you may be able to negotiate with them. I know Covid has complicated everything but getting help from a guidance councilor might be needed. They are used to dealing with demanding parents.

I second the recommendation to talk to a guidance counselor or a teacher, both about your grades and your issue with being yelled at. No one on the internet is in a position like one of those adults to take your side of the story and potentially engage with your parents if they are truly being unreasonable. If you don't want to do that it's likely because they're going to tell you the same as your parents, that you need to work harder. But you shouldn't be being yelled at about it unless you're screwing around.