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    Quote Originally Posted by Cole2534 View Post
    I paid $70/bx for Winchester 200rd 115gr at Academy last week. 4 box limit gets you 800rds.

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    Nobody around here has had bulk boxes the past few times I've checked. They might just all be gone by the time I get there.

    I ran into an interesting situation at Cabela's a month or so ago. A friend asked me to pick up some Berry's 45 bullets if I ever saw them. Cabela's had them in 500 round boxes so I grabbed one. I also grabbed 4 boxes of other ammunition, the limit at the time.

    When I got to the register the kid cashier told me I had too much ammunition. I told him, "That big box is just bullets, not ammunition." He said it didn't matter, the bulk box of bullets was counted as "four boxes" of product. He said I could have either the bullets or the ammo but not both.

    I took the bullets as my friend was completely out. I thought about calling a manager but I was in a hurry and needed to get out of there.

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    I ran into a similar situation, but it worked in my favor. Cabelas had a 5 box limit, except shotgun shells, those went by the case. So I bought 25 boxes of shotgun shells.

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    My trap shooting friends go through a couple hundred shells a week for practice and leagues. They're buying all they can find because they can't reload due to lack of primers and powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFrank View Post
    My trap shooting friends go through a couple hundred shells a week for practice and leagues. They're buying all they can find because they can't reload due to lack of primers and powder.

    Yeah, I can go through 100-200 12ga birdshot in a weekend, no problem, and I'm just a casual trap shooter. Buying a couple hundred at a time isn't hording, it's just supplies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
    My buddy that works at Federal has been on unlimited OT for a longggg time.
    Ask your buddy how their stamping dies are holding up, what their scrap rate is. I am curious for and inside opinion. My company had a job a couple years ago to redesign a die for one of the big manufacturers, for the primer anvil. If memory serves correct, that die was built the the 1960's and the scrap rate was 50%-60%. Not sure if that is memory error or just "industry standard".

    As for ammo shortages, now that it is October, how bad is it in the rest of the world? My local area of Western Peoples Republic of New York seems pretty bare as far as ammo goes. We have fancy bludgeoning sticks in a variety of calibers.

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    Ponder running a tourist shooting range like Battlefield Vegas using as much as 400,000 a month. Yeah..four-hundred-thousand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by standardparts View Post
    Ponder running a tourist shooting range like Battlefield Vegas using as much as 400,000 a month. Yeah..four-hundred-thousand.
    Rounds? I'm sure that is just the mini gun alone. I would think that Battlefield Vegas would have a contract with an ammo manufacturer, kinda like the govt does. Just my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckg7442 View Post
    Rounds? I'm sure that is just the mini gun alone. I would think that Battlefield Vegas would have a contract with an ammo manufacturer, kinda like the govt does. Just my guess.
    Good thread running for a couple of years describing logistics, round counts, and tracking of failures due to high volume round count. Link below--go to page 39 for a few pics and other tech comments as to ammo logistics
    .....High round count AR/M4's (over 100,000 rounds) and how they have handled on our range - Page 39 - AR15.COM

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    Quote Originally Posted by standardparts View Post
    Good thread running for a couple of years describing logistics, round counts, and tracking of failures due to high volume round count. Link below--go to page 39 for a few pics and other tech comments as to ammo logistics
    .....High round count AR/M4's (over 100,000 rounds) and how they have handled on our range - Page 39 - AR15.COM
    That cracked in half upper was impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckg7442 View Post
    Ask your buddy how their stamping dies are holding up, what their scrap rate is. I am curious for and inside opinion. My company had a job a couple years ago to redesign a die for one of the big manufacturers, for the primer anvil. If memory serves correct, that die was built the the 1960's and the scrap rate was 50%-60%. Not sure if that is memory error or just "industry standard".

    As for ammo shortages, now that it is October, how bad is it in the rest of the world? My local area of Western Peoples Republic of New York seems pretty bare as far as ammo goes. We have fancy bludgeoning sticks in a variety of calibers.
    Those little anvils are interesting parts. Are the dies made with sinker EDM or is there more magic involved than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borealis View Post
    Those little anvils are interesting parts. Are the dies made with sinker EDM or is there more magic involved than that?
    They are an interesting part, the die is kinda cool too. They run a strip about 2.5 inches wide and I think the die is 9 wide? It has been a couple years since I saw the die, but the job was just a design. I would like to say that the all of it was wire work. I think our EDM wires are no bigger than .03? Wire machines are kind of my "holy grail" of equipment to learn. I've seen them, just haven't earned my right to touch them yet. I'm told there is an art to running them, some may call it magic. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeachMePlease View Post
    Yeah, I can go through 100-200 12ga birdshot in a weekend, no problem, and I'm just a casual trap shooter. Buying a couple hundred at a time isn't hording, it's just supplies.
    Please tell the media this. Every damn time they arrest some retard with a gun collection it's an 'aresenal'. In reality, it less gear and ammo than I take home from a match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cole2534 View Post
    Please tell the media this. Every damn time they arrest some retard with a gun collection it's an 'aresenal'. In reality, it less gear and ammo than I take home from a match.
    how-many-guns.jpg

    For what it's worth, I have seven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxcarPete View Post
    how-many-guns.jpg

    For what it's worth, I have seven.
    I have 7 of the same gun. I really like Sig P320's.....

    But if I had to do it all over again, I'd own fewer guns and spend more on mags/ammo/gear and TRAINING.

    And night vision. NOD's are badass, both image intensification and thermal.

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    So as long as I am somewhere between obsessed and psycho, I'm ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckg7442 View Post
    So as long as I am somewhere between obsessed and psycho, I'm ok?
    Yessir!

    I'm of the opinion that if you're capable of properly storing, maintaining and operating it, no weapon should be off limits. Properly being the key word. If you want to throw some hand grenades, be my guest, if you can do it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    And we wonder why we have ammo shortages?
    A case is 10 boxes, I bought half of their prescribed limit. That's just enough to take the wife out for a round of sporting clays with a small warm-up and some spares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cole2534 View Post
    Yessir!

    I'm of the opinion that if you're capable of properly storing, maintaining and operating it, no weapon should be off limits. Properly being the key word. If you want to throw some hand grenades, be my guest, if you can do it properly.
    I'm a firm believer in gun safes. I was thankful I had one when my house was ripped off several years ago. None of my guns were stolen and able to hurt someone else or support an addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckg7442 View Post
    I'm a firm believer in gun safes. I was thankful I had one when my house was ripped off several years ago. None of my guns were stolen and able to hurt someone else or support an addiction.
    Yep, it's criminally irresponsible to leave guns laying about in my opinion. Even more so when there are children around. I was shocked and appalled when hanging out with my neighbor, he asked if I wanted to check out one of his handguns. When I said sure, he simply opened up a nearby cupboard in the basement, it was just sitting there on the shelf. He handed it to me, I checked the chamber out of habit, oh look, there's a little 9mm, right there in the chamber. Cool. You have two daughters aged 5 and 3, dude. When you hear about children getting a hold of a parent's gun and causing a serious injury or fatality it's absolutely tragic, absolutely avoidable, and absolutely unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cole2534 View Post
    A case is 10 boxes, I bought half of their prescribed limit. That's just enough to take the wife out for a round of sporting clays with a small warm-up and some spares.

    I just had to provide our local Boy Scout Troop 250 rounds of 20 gauge and 250 rounds of 12 Gauge. Otherwise they would have had to cancel Trap Shooting at their annual shooting campout as they could not find shotgun ammo anywhere.


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