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    Default P17 Enfield missing safety

    I just picked up a sportered 1917 Enfield for next to nothing. I had an idea of turning it into a scout rifle since the barrel was already cut down to 18 inches.

    I checked it over pretty well before buying it and noticed the safety was missing, but at the time I thought I could just buy some replacement parts and be back in business. Once I got home I noticed that whoever sportered it had removed the safety by grinding on the receiver until the whole thing was gone. Needless to say I don't think getting some parts from Sarco are going to fix this.




    I'm not willing to take this into the woods hunting without a safety, but I don't want to abandon the project. Anybody have any ideas on how to get some kind of safety on here?

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    Look at an after market trigger with a safety built in. Timney makes one.

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    I've looked into the aftermarket triggers, and they're a no-go. Timney doesn't make a model with the built in safety for the p17, and Dayton Traister doesn't either.

    I did find a replacement cocking piece that puts a 3 position safety on the bolt, but the gentleman who made it has stopped producing them

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    Mine has a 3 POS Ed's is not what I have, but what you need. An Ed LaPour custom Enfield 3 Position Safety | Ed LaPour GunSmithing

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    Where did you get your 3 position safety? I checked Ed's website and it says he no longer makes any of the 3 position safeties. I agree, tho, it would be the ideal solution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmith8o View Post
    Where did you get your 3 position safety? I checked Ed's website and it says he no longer makes any of the 3 position safeties. I agree, tho, it would be the ideal solution
    I didn't notice that when I checked his site a few minutes ago. I know he quit for a while as Ed said he was redesigning them. Mine was put together from loose parts in a shop's million dollar drawer. That is the drawer full of throw away parts that are worth priceless money when you find them.
    Last edited by Butch Lambert; 10-01-2018 at 02:07 PM.

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    Would you mind taking a few pics of what you put together? I like to see how you solved this problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmith8o View Post
    Would you mind taking a few pics of what you put together? I like to see how you solved this problem
    Sorry, I'm not ready to disassemble it for photos. The photo on Ed's website might help you.

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    The 3 position safety that is no longer made is your best option there, short of soldering a new block back on which is more work than its worth IMO. I started making a 3 pos safety for an action that I have, but have yet to finish it. It would be cheaper in just about every way to move this one on and pick up one that has the safety block.

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    Numrich Gun Parts Corp has an original for $7.20,

    Safety Manufacturer: U.S. Military
    Model: Enfield 1917
    Product #: 412850B

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    What about repairing the receiver? The safety is not at the high pressure end.

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    Some have replaced 03 Springfield with Win M70's. I believe its the same thread as the P-14 and P-17 Enfield. Let me know if this is doable for you. If not, I'd be interested in the action. I might do a trade. I'd have to see where you are in MD.

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    A Timney Springfield trigger will fit a 1917 Enfield. You might need to add metal to the bottom of the Enfield cocking piece so it will reach the Timney sear face. A piece of good steel silver soldered to the bottom of the cocking piece and trimmed all around to match will do it. You will also need a steel plug in the receiver sear spring cavity under the Timney set screw. It is not critical, just a short piece of round rod dropped in the hole before tightening the screw. Look here: https://timneytriggers.com/springfield/ The featherweight deluxe has a side safety. You might have some interference between the receiver and the safety lever, but that should not be a big problem to remedy.

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    What is a P17?

    I am familiar with the British Pattern 14 or P14 and the US Model of 1917 but I've not heard of a P17 or Pattern 17.

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    The British bought 500,000 M17 s in 1940,and called them Pattern 17 ,probably to be uniform with the P14......which by that time was classified as the No3 rifle.

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    john.k

    Can you source this information about the US Model of 1917 being called a Pattern 17 in Brittan?

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