pocketshaver
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- Aug 13, 2020
I have constantly seen people on the various forums who state that they have had modern, rimless cased center fire rifles converted to use 30-30. They have never been willing to give the contact name for the gunsmiths, and in the cases i HAVE been given contact information, the gunsmith either has no recollection or went out of business before 2000.
I want to convert a rifle to 30-30 winchester. I have absolutely NO problem finding places that will MAKE a barrel chambered in 30-30, seriously i can get a 26" 8 lb barrel for a savage 10/110 for 400$ no issues,
but i cannot get ANYONE who advertises as a gunsmith or gun builder like McGowen, to actually alter the bolt face. When I try to get an explanation i get some form of the following excuses:
1. The 30-30 chambers on the rim, it wont chamber correctly on a rimless bolt face
*still cant figure out how PROFESSIONAL gunsmiths wouldnt be able to comprehend how silly that is to say.....
2. The 30-30 RIM DIAMETER is to LARGE for anything currently offered in the 8x57 / .223 remington case head families.....
* they understand the .300 win mag uses a bigger rim then the .308 winchester, but dont see the issue that BOLT HEADS are identical size in the actual guns.....
3. why do something that would be a single shot, or need a custom magazine design
*enfield magazines are available,,,, savage 340..... dont need much capacity for a hunting rifle. can stack cartridges mosin style with side ribs like the 300 black out does
Now the questions to ask....
1. is anyone here ever done this before?
2. Is anyone here willing to be man enough, or to actually be a gunsmith and do both the rebarrel and bolt face work?
3. Anyone here ever consider that the henry style extractor has worked for over 150 years with a rimmed cartridge and would work in a bolt action?
4. Anyone ever considered the following idea, or that its ALMOST already been done, in multiple stages, over several different gun designs. IE just combine the stages of evolution that worked?
A bolt action conversion for lever action rifles.
I want to convert a rifle to 30-30 winchester. I have absolutely NO problem finding places that will MAKE a barrel chambered in 30-30, seriously i can get a 26" 8 lb barrel for a savage 10/110 for 400$ no issues,
but i cannot get ANYONE who advertises as a gunsmith or gun builder like McGowen, to actually alter the bolt face. When I try to get an explanation i get some form of the following excuses:
1. The 30-30 chambers on the rim, it wont chamber correctly on a rimless bolt face
*still cant figure out how PROFESSIONAL gunsmiths wouldnt be able to comprehend how silly that is to say.....
2. The 30-30 RIM DIAMETER is to LARGE for anything currently offered in the 8x57 / .223 remington case head families.....
* they understand the .300 win mag uses a bigger rim then the .308 winchester, but dont see the issue that BOLT HEADS are identical size in the actual guns.....
3. why do something that would be a single shot, or need a custom magazine design
*enfield magazines are available,,,, savage 340..... dont need much capacity for a hunting rifle. can stack cartridges mosin style with side ribs like the 300 black out does
Now the questions to ask....
1. is anyone here ever done this before?
2. Is anyone here willing to be man enough, or to actually be a gunsmith and do both the rebarrel and bolt face work?
3. Anyone here ever consider that the henry style extractor has worked for over 150 years with a rimmed cartridge and would work in a bolt action?
4. Anyone ever considered the following idea, or that its ALMOST already been done, in multiple stages, over several different gun designs. IE just combine the stages of evolution that worked?
A bolt action conversion for lever action rifles.