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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Learning View Post
    Well then how would you interpret the opening clause of the 2d Amendment?
    I will leave that to:

    a) the experts at the USSC and
    b) to the 'experts' here as they no doubt have voluminous ideas about what it all means.

    When the PM board becomes elevated to the judiciary no doubt all the ideas here will be implemented as laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    I will leave that to:

    a) the experts at the USSC and
    b) to the 'experts' here as they no doubt have voluminous ideas about what it all means.

    When the PM board becomes elevated to the judiciary no doubt all the ideas here will be implemented as laws.
    More than fifty years since I've sat AS a Judge, and over lives, not money. But you are several million years too late had you started a hundred years before.

    They ARE "Laws". Natural ones.

    All living organisms, even PLANTS, attempt to thrive and survive - hence DEFEND (chemical warfare/competition in the case of plants) so as to onpass their DNA.

    Go read-up on how flatworms breed. Combat is involved. The "loser", impregnated, or the functional equivalent, now as much a "Single Mom" as single ever gets, is burdened with the drain on resources to do the heavy lifting of reproduction of their species.

    Fast-forward through hive insects, herd animals of prey, Wolf or Hyena packs of predators, pods of Cetaceans, or bands of primates.

    Caring humans have worked out better load-sharing, but it didn't happen overnight, "recently", nor certainly off the back of legislation.

    Sane Law follows nature. Not the reverse.

    Survival is a common driver. Sharing the load effectively and fairly enough to survive to earn a repeat of the methods is crucial.

    WHEN some sub-tribe - looter-lie-bore-alls but one of the more recent, raiding parties, fuedal overlords, fascists, Nazis, and Commissars as well - declares it their right and privilege to deny - from a distance, yet - the right to life and the safety OF it to some OTHER part of the races of man?

    "Pushback" can be taken as stipulated.

    ALL folks want to live, live well, live safely, and pass it on the their offspring as the advantage of a functioning family, clan, tribe, national or pan-global society. "Brand immaterial".

    Nothing "political" about that.

    Natural defense of LIFE, family, and future, rather.

    Triflng with that ancient and endemic paradigm is prima-facie evidence of insanity.

    If that foo shits you?

    Expect to be made to WEAR it.

    No matter WHAT the hood-badge of the day, looter-lie-bore-all or fascist, either one.

    Wiser folks want to simply learn, grow, work honestly, enjoy the fruits of their OWN labour, engage in fair exchange with others rather than LOOTING, so they and their offspring may live long and prosper? AND NOT have to constantly be looking over one shoulder at predators or "Green New Steal" looters hunting them down as economic LUNCH?

    They have done. "Brand immaterial".

    They will do. "Brand immaterial."

    Fuck with those milliards of years of the solid proof of it written into history by the survivors, not the losers, "brand immaterial" yet-again, at your peril.

    A brand-new United States didn't invent any part of this any more than the Swiss did. All we each did was write the lessons of humankind's long and weary struggle onto hard-copy.

    Then prove in blood, lives, and treasure, more than just the one time, that we actually MEANT what was understood and written. Were damned well going to take more joy in it than pain if you somehow MISSED that part.

    Just Fucking Deal with that. "Brand immaterial"

    Common sense? Welll. it simply shares more easily, and humans are kinda lazy, too.

    No NEED to sue the fools. Efficiency rules.

    Just casually reach over with the ever-so appropriately named tube of "crazy glue" when they get their head up their ass one time too many and see that it remains there through at least the next election.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    When the PM board becomes elevated to the judiciary no doubt all the ideas here will be implemented as laws.
    Aah, “the judiciary”, aka “the courts”. And note how he says the ideas of the judiciary “will be implemented as laws”. That’s as open an admission as any that activist judges are usurping the role of the legislators in creating laws.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    The left loves to prattle on about "the courts" and this retired activist judge has just shown exactly why. For decades liberals have controlled the courts and not only the Supreme Court but especially lower courts have virtually gutted the real protections of the Bill of Rights while at the same time discovering "rights" that never existed.
    The left loves “the judiciary” because they can be counted on year after year, regardless of which party holds power, to implement the left-wing agenda piece by piece. Congress can’t or won’t get it done? Count on the judges. A new administration trying to reverse leftist policies? Count on the judges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    The left loves “the judiciary” because they can be counted on year after year, regardless of which party holds power, to implement the left-wing agenda piece by piece. Congress can’t or won’t get it done? Count on the judges. A new administration trying to reverse leftist policies? Count on the judges.
    You mean "count the judges", yah?



    Have tah laff out loud. Left found their symbiants in the lies-for-profit media so loved their circus acts of seeing whom among them was athletic enough to get their head further up their own ass than some other fool in their clown show?

    That didn't blind them badly enough, Trump Derangement Syndrome took their eye clear off EXTERIOR events the rare times they got their head far enough out to tell lies.

    NB: Politicans don't actually HAVE to breath. Just draw air enough to tell the next lie. Lobbyshits do the heavy breathing FOR them.

    All the while clever ol' Mitch and DJT's hard working side, not showman-diversion public clown side, were clocking strict constitutionalists Judges of waaay younger age than average onto one bench after another at a rate they may as well have been tellypoles clicking by out the window of a 1949 Greyhound bus.

    Figure that'll stitch-up the looter-lie-bore-all tribe for the next 30 or 40 years?

    The rest is up to the Orkin man and whatever can be bio-engineered to actually LIKE the taste of two-legged cockroaches enough to hunt 'em down, free-range without need of being paid to do it.

    There's a Noble Piece prize opportunity if ever was.


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    Guns are bad umkay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SND View Post
    -The Earth will end in 12 years,
    Call me a cynic. I can be, bad days. But I have zero confidence their Earth will have ended in only 12 years.

    Ever hear the term "jungle rot"?

    War Two in the Pacific vet of my acquaintance was afflicted with it. It's a blood fungus. Been a while ago, might be curable by now, but at the time, his Doc told him it was so durable it would outlive him, thrive for quite a while on his remains in the coffin.

    "GraNITE!" headed old Norwegian-American wasn't to be that easily had.
    Went and changed his option to cremation!

    This looter-lie-bore-all parasitic gutworm/brainworm infestation keeps up?

    It won't be "guns" honest folk need for home defense.

    Piperazine Adipate immobilize & starve-'em to death:

    Piperazine Adipate Drug Information, Professional

    plus Red Dragon weed-control / asphalt-mending blast burners, to put-paid to regeneration from the eggs [1], rather.

    Choosing the Right Torch– Flame Engineering

    That should convince an "entitlement class" parasitic snowflake it ain't but an insignificant drip, Yah?



    [1] "TMI" category from a medico: If pinworm eggs - so small and light as to be dispersable as airborne aerosols and inhaled, were the size of domesticated HEN eggs? They'd cover the Earth to a depth of four feet. Constantly renewed. Mind.. might lose a good six-inches, Howce of Reprehensibles is in secret room sessions busily converting them to lies meant to infect brains rather than anuses? Well,, OK. "Both", then. Gotta be fair to the majority party. Even better example of a virtuous Green New Steal use of "renewables" for yah!

    Not as if anyone exactly wanted to make Mickey-D breakfast omelettes outta pinworm eggs, is it? Why let 'em go to waste when the Reprehensibles have no other Day Job but attempting to bugger Trump's imaginary persona, given they cannot find the real one to tag.

    Poor divils haven't yet twigged to Reagan having given up acting to make a good life in real estate, whilst DJT has done the reverse. Given up a career in real estate to take-on the role of an actor who can mind-f**k them into a TDS'ed crate of smelly past-sell-by-date catfish bait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post

    It won't be "guns" honest folk need for home defense.

    Red Dragon weed-control / asphalt-mending blast burners, rather.

    Choosing the Right Torch– Flame Engineering

    That should convince a snowflake it ain't but an insignificant drip, Yah?

    I prefer a lance, 1/2" black iron pipe and a 12 pack of bottles....

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    Quote Originally Posted by digger doug View Post
    I prefer a lance, 1/2" black iron pipe and a 12 pack of bottles....
    Too many dreams, Doug. Actually suiting-up and OPERATING a burning bar pays above the mark, but is one of the shittiest jobs a card-carrying Steelworker ever gets.

    Take a leaf from a late lamented friend of long, long years.

    Last knew him as a legendary MD, Tropical Medicine, expat in Hong Kong. "Penance" for prior sins? Maybe.

    FIRST met him as a LTC of Australian Expeditionery forces, Vee ett nam. The NVA had an outstanding reward of twenty-five thousand USD as the price tag on his head.

    How did we meet? Bright guy. Colonel Miles wanted to know if I could kindly tap the earlier stages of the four-stage 3600 PSIG @ 120 CFM compressors on my Oxygen plants to fill his 300 backpack flamethrower tanks every two weeks faster.

    We did that. More than a few times, given his lads had the careless habit of emptying them.

    His sector of that war was a remarkably well-regulated one if somewhat black, grey, and ashen.

    You do NOT f**k with Australia. Wise folks, and experienced. The hard way.

    The resource-poor efficiency experts actually UNDERSTAND jungle warfare is cheaper and more germ-free if the enemy is cleanly incinerated up close and personal, rather than missed by two million bucks worth of B-52 iron bombs ...or machine-gunned, shelled, and mortared into messy burger as harbours all manner of vermin.

    Free air from the Septics, bit of Diesel fuel for his 3-tonners, few thousand gallons of treated MOGAS?

    Got the job done with the resources he HAD, not those he might have WISHED he had.

    Knowing Peter? I'd even bet he had his estate put in a claim for that 25 large off the Vietnamese government, over 40 years late?

    You'd have to know the Aus and their sense of humour!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    You mean "count the judges", yah?



    Have tah laff out loud. Left found their symbiants in the lies-for-profit media so loved their circus acts of seeing whom among them was athletic enough to get their head further up their own ass than some other fool in their clown show?

    That didn't blind them badly enough, Trump Derangement Syndrome took their eye clear off EXTERIOR events the rare times they got their head far enough out to tell lies.

    NB: Politicans don't actually HAVE to breath. Just draw air enough to tell the next lie. Lobbyshits do the heavy breathing FOR them.

    All the while clever ol' Mitch and DJT's hard working side, not showman-diversion public clown side, were clocking strict constitutionalists Judges of waaay younger age than average onto one bench after another at a rate they may as well have been tellypoles clicking by out the window of a 1949 Greyhound bus.

    Figure that'll stitch-up the looter-lie-bore-all tribe for the next 30 or 40 years?

    The rest is up to the Orkin man and whatever can be bio-engineered to actually LIKE the taste of two-legged cockroaches enough to hunt 'em down, free-range without need of being paid to do it.

    There's a Noble Piece prize opportunity if ever was.

    As a fellow Virginian, I hope any new laws the libtards come up with will be immediately tied up with injunctions in the courts, long enough for Virginia voters, who are hopefully FINALLY AWAKE, to vote the idiots out of office in two years, and elect Constitutional conservatives who will UNDO this mess, and only pass CONSTITUTIONAL legislation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobranut View Post
    As a fellow Virginian, I hope any new laws the libtards come up with will be immediately tied up with injunctions in the courts, long enough for Virginia voters, who are hopefully FINALLY AWAKE, to vote the idiots out of office in two years, and elect Constitutional conservatives who will UNDO this mess, and only pass CONSTITUTIONAL legislation.
    You don't yet understand Virginia atall.

    VA ain't going "red state" any time soon.

    Hongry Lawsters are like bears, only slower. They have to forage, feast, build up muscle and fat for the winter.

    We'll vote a NEW set of looter-lie-bore-alls in prolly the next three rounds.

    Gots to flush the cockroaches out into the open before you can sue them in Court, y'see.

    You'd have to know Lawsters...

    Didn't we jail a Governator? Or try to do?

    Bob McDonnell - Wikipedia

    Twenty-seven MILLION USD$ project? And is he in jail?

    Whadddieyejestsay?

    Lawsters gotta feed..... it's an INDUSTRY.

    "libtards"? Welcome! VERY welcome!

    Your bin on the "all you can eat" buffet is right over there .. in between the Romaine lettuce and the cherry tomatoes - just above the sliced mushrooms and black olives.

    Waitress will be along shortly with your iced Hemlock and Court orders.

    Thought Trump Derangement Syndrome was bad? Too merciful by half!

    Let us introduce you to "patient agony". "VD" AKA The notorious "Virginia Drip".

    Let the games begin!


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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    Too many dreams, Doug. Actually suiting-up and OPERATING a burning bar pays above the mark, but is one of the shittiest jobs a card-carrying Steelworker ever gets.
    I use a longer length pipe on the lance....and I don't wear those silly cloth doo rags neither when welding overhead....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    WHEN some sub-tribe - looter-lie-bore-alls but one of the more recent, raiding parties, fuedal overlords, fascists, Nazis, and Commissars as well - declares it their right and privilege to deny - from a distance, yet - the right to life and the safety OF it to some OTHER part of the races of man?
    I think your "lie-bore-alls" tag is pretty accurate. While some are more honest and call themselves progressives (although "regressives" might be a more accurate label) most are anything but "liberal". This is from a dictionary listing of synonyms for Liberal:

    enlightened general interested flexible humanitarian
    loose humanistic latitudinarian libertarian magnanimous
    lenient reasonable permissive radical rational
    receptive reformist understanding unbiased tolerant
    broad-minded unbigoted unprejudiced broad indulgent
    high-minded advanced unorthodox avant-garde unconventional
    "tolerant"? Not much evidence of that in debate.

    "unprejudiced"? Hardly.

    Actually very few apply to many of those who today call themselves Liberals. I've known plenty since the 60s and 70s and none of them resorted to insults instead of actual debate.

    Update (4:46 PM): I checked a few online dictionaries for synonyms for Conservative. Most of the entries seem to have been written by intolerant "lie-bore-alls" because at least half the "synonyms" given are derogatory political terms. A couple even included terms like "redneck" and "fascist". Older dictionaries used terms like staid, cautious, hesitant, traditional, conventional, unadventurous, old-fashioned, traditionalist, old-school, and careful.
    Last edited by Scottl; 01-15-2020 at 04:54 PM.

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    There are certain advantages to being a moderator, one being that you can lock threads, another being that you can have the last word. It is time to exercise both.

    We have almost 2500 posts in this thread, and it appears to me that after the first hundred, we haven't really gotten much closer to answering the original question. And the last few hundred are mostly repetition of dogma previously posted, along with a growing disdain for each other. That is why I am locking the thread.

    I come back to my idea in my original post about separating the contending parties into separate and independent nations. That way each group can do things the way they want to themselves but not to those who oppose them. Any other course will be really ugly.

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