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    Trying to discuss facts with gus the goat

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    Usually when there's a mass shooting in Idaho the Feds started shooting first

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    What is different today with all the shootings than in the 1970's when I was a kid. For starters there was no internet, social media or cell phones. Most kids were not exposed to the violence we seem to have today. I think the media is going over board with the shootings while I don't have a problem with them reporting some stories but I think they seem obsessed with writing them. Just reading this thread there seems a lot of anger towards others and I think most adults are not violent on message boards, I do think kids getting exposure on them brings out some violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob F. View Post
    Trying to discuss facts with gus the goat

    Thank you for that detailed informative on topic post



    Let me know when you have a fact you would like to discuss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawnrs View Post
    What is different today with all the shootings than in the 1970's when I was a kid. For starters there was no internet, social media or cell phones. Most kids were not exposed to the violence we seem to have today. I think the media is going over board with the shootings while I don't have a problem with them reporting some stories but I think they seem obsessed with writing them. Just reading this thread there seems a lot of anger towards others and I think most adults are not violent on message boards, I do think kids getting exposure on them brings out some violence.
    There are many questions and lots of [supposed] answers about 'why are people violent'

    Are people more violent now than in the 70's

    The numbers say no, pretty clearly

    The next question is can we make people less violent, or at the very least, less effective in their violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob F. View Post
    Trying to discuss facts with gus the goat
    I thought that was fake tears chuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ H View Post
    Usually when there's a mass shooting in Idaho the Feds started shooting first
    OK, that's almost funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    The next question is can we make people less violent, or at the very least, less effective in their violence
    In effect treat the whole population as guilty with out trial.

    Not all men are rapists until they aren't, all men should be forced to turn in their penis's in order to reduce rapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMasochism View Post
    In effect treat the whole population as guilty with out trial.

    Not all men are rapists until they aren't, all men should be forced to turn in their penis's in order to reduce rapes.
    The left has been making them turn in their ball bags for awhile now, its the next logical step

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMasochism View Post
    In effect treat the whole population as guilty with out trial.

    Not all men are rapists until they aren't, all men should be forced to turn in their penis's in order to reduce rapes.
    Is that what you want to do?

    I don't see anyone saying anything of the sort

    I do see some pretty distressing Freudian comparisons in a conversation about guns

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    Is that what you want to do?

    I don't see anyone saying anything of the sort

    I do see some pretty distressing Freudian comparisons in a conversation about guns
    Well I figured why not. The left is completely obsessed with the idea gun=penis.

    As far as anything of the sort? What do you call banning firearms for the entire population based on the actions of .0000~whatever%? You are effectively declaring the entire population guilty and stripping them of their rights based solely on what a tiny amount of people MIGHT do.



    I'M HERE! IN GEAR! GET USED TO IT!

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    Only you are talking about banning firearms


    40000 gun deaths last year

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    72000 overdose deaths last year. Maybe they'll start issuing permits after passing sufficient back ground checks to watch breaking bad in the trailer park

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    40000 gun deaths last year
    AND? Is that all? Almost 1/3 of that number die falling down stairs each year. The LOWEST estimates of defensive gun uses puts it at 65,000 a year. So guns do MORE good than harm over all and you want them banned? And that bullshit number? That includes suicides.

    Gun Deaths Dropped in 2018, Excluding Suicides

    Here's your source for the numbers from one of your supremely gun hating lefty rags funded by Bloomberg himself. 14,623. Almost the same amount as die from stairs.

    So why don't you go pick a bigger windmill to go tilting against Quixote?

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    Now that the Busch Lattes have hit the shelves the death by stairs will be on the rise

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    Why are suicides acceptable to you?

    When people fall down stairs we make handrails mandatory

    We don't rant about the loss of freedom related to stair design

    Cars are safer now, vehicle deaths are down, both in actual terms and per miles driven.

    Whine about seat belts and crash testing, whatever

    Every industrialized country,and most of the non industrialized ones have lower gun death rate.

    None of them have as many firearms as the US

    I get that you don't care about other people, no need to repeat that.

    Some people do.


    the worst possible argument, deaths don't matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    The death penalty has never been effective, ever.

    You have given no historical data, crayon or otherwise, but look I did. Counter it, please.

    you have a highly speculative argument, let's kill more people, that'll fix it

    with no proof

    Texas kills people with intellectual impairment

    evidence of prosecutorial misconduct

    appelate judges who make up their own theories of the crime

    junk science


    kill em all let god sort them out

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    Do you see how you discount all facts and stats put before you? You are defensive and wanting to win an argument rather than follow logic. The death penalty works based on logic and reason. If over 2/3 of violent criminals are repeat offenders, there is 2/3 of crime that we can eradicate with the DP.

    Mass shooting is usually defined as 3-4 victims. A very small percentage of gun related deaths. Look at the top murder rate cities in America and they are all big on gun control and run by dems.(st Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans)

    98% of mass shootings are in gun free zones.

    You are throwing out the usual lib talking points, but I hope you look at logic, stats and reason in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ H View Post
    72000 overdose deaths last year.
    And this is a huge national tragedy, lack of action on which is reprehensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mram10 View Post
    Do you see how you discount all facts and stats put before you? You are defensive and wanting to win an argument rather than follow logic. The death penalty works based on logic and reason. If over 2/3 of violent criminals are repeat offenders, there is 2/3 of crime that we can eradicate with the DP.

    Mass shooting is usually defined as 3-4 victims. A very small percentage of gun related deaths. Look at the top murder rate cities in America and they are all big on gun control and run by dems.(st Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans)

    98% of mass shootings are in gun free zones.

    You are throwing out the usual lib talking points, but I hope you look at logic, stats and reason in the future.

    You have offered nothing

    these are not statistics, they are your silly assumptions that have zero basis in fact

    Usual right wing talking points, focus on a few cities, then start lying

    sorry that is what you are doing

    First lie:

    St Louis, New Orleans, in red states

    Second Lie: focus on small areas that obscure the overall pattern I listed above, gun control states are by and large safer than free gun states

    Third and best lie: I JUST posted that most of the mass shootings listed were in free gun states, what, 3 to 1?

    Totally totally bogus

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    Only you are talking about banning firearms


    40000 gun deaths last year
    Be honest. Over half of those are suicides. 80% of the remaining are gang/drug related. Please be honest when throwing out that number.


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