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Anyone help with Renishaw probing on older 2000 VF0E

M K

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Hi

So I’ve been getting to grips with my new to me Haas vf0e year 2000 with the pre NG controller

The machine came with a Renishaw OMI interface fitted but no actual Probe

Well I have now bought an OMP40 probe and holder etc that will arrive with me next week

The machine has MACROS for Renishaw probing,

See the pictures below

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Can anyone with experience of these older Haas machines and probing give me a bit of a run down of how to set up to do an XYZ part set up cycle

All info I can find on the net and YouTube refers to the newer controls

Thanks
Marc
 
I would start by downloading the manual and renishaw supplements for that year machine. If the software has been upgraded you might want to find the manual for the year of the machine you were upgraded to but that’s probably not the case. You probably want to order some of the batteries for the probe. Find a ring gauge with a known bore diameter 1” to 3” that you can calibrate the probe with. Make sure the tool setter is trammed to the head and the signal is reporting to the software. Probably try and find a better camera. If you can make it through the calibration routines your 90% of the way there.


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you need to make sure your macro programs are still in the control. they are all 9### program numbers. then you will need to indicate the probe tip. then you need a gauge ring to calibrate the probe. I have the manuals some where. its been years since I installed a probe in a Haas. normally once you have everything calibrated , you have to set you probe tip less than .5 inches in Z for it to pick up the height. any more than that it will alarm out . I cant remember but you enter approximate size for a bore in a macro ( cant remember which 1) and the the probe knows the approximate size area to probe. they work very well once you get use to them. Sorry I'm not more help. perhaps someone who still uses 1 can chime in.
 
Hi

Thanks for the quick reply’s

I’m not currently installing a tool setter as the OMI can only pair with 1 prove,

If I get the tool setter it will be a hard wired TS27R kit which I can get for around £400

I have ordered a set of batteries from Renishaw along with 2 spare sets and also the correct BT40 shank holder for the OMP40

I have plenty of ring bore setting gauges so that’s not an issue

The pictures I know are too small to see easily, sorry about that

My control versions are as follows

Version M10.31N
MOCON 11.00
00-09-22


The macros in the control are as follows
09721 (Ren x diam)
09722 (Ren Y diam)
09723 (Ren ACT offset)
09724 (settings)
09726 (Ren basic measure - 2T)
09727 (Ren vector OD-ID)
09730 (Ren print)
09731 (Ren #509 load-atan)
09732 (Ren offset type)
09733 (Full calibration OMP40 probe)
09801 (Ren cal probe length)
09802 (Ren cal XY offset)
09803 (Ren cal stylus rad)
09804 (Ren cal vec stylus rad)
09810 (Ren protected posn)
09811 (Ren XYZ measure)
09812 (Ren web pocket measure)
09814 (Ren bore boss measure)
09815 (Ren internal corner)
09816 (Ren external corner)
09817 (Ren 4th axis X measure)
09818 (Ren 4th axis Y measure)
09819 (Ren pcd bore boss)
09820 (Ren stock allowance)
09821 (Ren ang XY single surface)
09822 (Ren ang web pocket)
09823 (Ren 3-point bore boss)
09830 (Ren multi stylus store)
09831 (Ren multi stylus load)
09832 (Ren multi spin on)
09833 (Ren multi spin off)
09834 (Ren feature to feature)
09835 (spc offset update)
09836 (Ren optimisation)
09843 (Ren X Y plane angle)

That’s all the macros I can find in the machine for Renishaw

Thanks
Marc
 
it appears that you have the majority if not all the macro programs. so that's a great start !!
 
I’ve had a search but can’t seem to find a list of the macros

There might be a few missing but hopefully I’ve got all I need,

I’m going to check the floppy back up discs that came with the machine to see if there’s and Renishaw files on them

Thanks
Marc
 
Hello everyone.
Marc, I put in a probe and TS for our 98 Garage VF/4 OMP40-2 and OMI-2T. a member PROBE on this forum is the resident guru. pop him a PM. He does offer very very resonable rates for helping get you up and running (as he did me). I have not fully read all the threads but some items that I went though- You can run both a probe and TS on the older haas units. Some wire in different way's but mine went in straight through 2 of the User Mcode relay hook ups on the I/O board. ( I had 4 on mine). The trick is you need both the OMI-2T tool setter and OMP40-2. This lets them operate correctly as a pair.
(see other threads on OMI2T -vs- H.. buy the T version 1K cheaper at last read...)


The renishaw programs I have from that era is called EasySet w/ Inspection Plus. It often has the tool setter pgm in there too. (seen both ways). To find the Renishaw macro version, Mine is listed at the top few lines of my NC macro code. Just view them. There were only 2 versions that I found for my era Haas (I called Haas CA too) was 2.6 and there is a 2.8 out there as well. Let us know what your's is. Search for Renishaw Inspection Plus 2.6 (or your version) and you'll find the step by step guides on the NET. Renishaw only seems to post current stuff. I never found what I wanted on their support site for my old stuff. I have called their local support Co. in the US and the techs will help. They have dug up some docs and such too.

What I bought:
1 Renishaw OMP40-2
1 Renishaw OMI-2T
 
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