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    Default Newbie to haas, just bought a VF-0E & have loads of questions

    Hi e,veryone

    I’m new to cnc and to Haas,

    I am a small 1 man machining and fabrication business that’s only been going 4 months, and I recently sold my prototrak DPM cnc bed mill as I wanted a proper vmc

    I have just bought a year 2000 Haas VF0E

    I know the E stands for extended bed, but the spec list just shows number so I’m unclear what it has and doesn’t have?

    It won’t be delivered for another week yet so thought I’d ask here


    I emailed Haas uk about what options, memory etc it had and they sent me this as the last current known spec

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    Does this mean it has Macros, rotational scaling, rigid tapping, floppy disc, 4th axis enabled and 16meg memory upgrade or does it mean it doesn’t have them options?

    Thanks for any help/feedback in advance

    Marc
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    Last edited by M K; 09-13-2019 at 10:10 AM.

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    Also,

    What exactly are MACROS?

    Thanks
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    As far as the options, Well the pic is so small I cant make it out on my 60" monitor so maybe increase the size and repost.

    The macro function is quite handy at manipulating programs but I suggest you take a course on how to use them.
    Heres a link to a good explanation.
    CNC Macro Programming - CNC Training Centre

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    pm me the serial number and i'll check for ya

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    normally the E was a option package that included a machine with all options such as rigid tapping, macros, rotational scaling, what ever was offered for max memory ( could have been anywhere from 1M ,4M,8M , or even 16M depending on what was available at build time) P cool, chip auger, floppy drive. 4th axis ready.

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    I'm sorry I miss read your text . the VFOE is the economy model that is a DC drives instead of the optional AC drives. still a very good machine. just a little less torque and speed on feeds and Rapids. sorry for the confusion. for some reason I thought ur post said Vf2 with E .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss710 View Post
    I'm sorry I miss read your text . the VFOE is the economy model that is a DC drives instead of the optional AC drives. still a very good machine. just a little less torque and speed on feeds and Rapids. sorry for the confusion. for some reason I thought ur post said Vf2 with E .
    correct the vfo is the 20x16 model and vfoe is the 30x16 model. most of the older base o & oe will have pcool, rigid tapping, and wired for 4th axis for options along with floppy (look into upgrading to a usb port). I've got a '97 vfo nice little entry level machine. don't worry about all the options and start learning the machine it'll do just about anything you need it to.

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    Thank you for you reply’s

    I will do my research regarding the Macros to learn them if it has the option to use them,

    I’m not sure why the picture is coming out so small,

    Basically the info is as follows

    Serial number - 22810
    Machine model - VF-0EBCE
    Current software version - M10.31N
    Macros - 49540
    Rotational & scaling - 54757
    Rigid tapping - 59971
    Floppy disc enabled - 1
    4th axis drive enabled - 1
    16meg memory option disabled - 15825



    If the 16meg memory option is disabled is it easy to add on these older machines?

    I am starting to learn cad/cam with fusion 360 and I know that these older controls are not a patch on new stuff with usb and flash drives etc but would like the memory to be able to handle a decent size program without having to drip feed,

    When it turns up I will look into the usb upgrade for it if it doesn’t already have it fitted,

    Thanks
    Marc

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    From some google searching it seems i will probably have the macros as the machine did have a renishaw probing system fitted that was sadly not included in the auction sale and has been removed since the photos

    vf0e-1.jpg
    vf0e-2.jpg
    vf0e-3.jpg
    vf0e-4.jpg


    Thanks
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    Those numbers, like 54757, appear to be the unlock codes for those functions. So should be there.

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    Hi

    Thanks for the reply, ok i did wonder what the numbers meant,

    I will have to check and see next week when the machine gets to me.

    I spoke to Haas uk who said as standard the machine had 1 meg of memory so it is likely that is all it has as they have no record of an upgrade.

    The cost to upgrade to 16 meg memory was a staggering £34,000 uk pounds yes THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND!!!!!!! PLUS VAT as they would need to replace the entire control system!!!!! so that is out of the question

    What sort of size program can be held with 1 meg as i have no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by M K View Post
    Hi

    Thanks for the reply, ok i did wonder what the numbers meant,

    I will have to check and see next week when the machine gets to me.

    I spoke to Haas uk who said as standard the machine had 1 meg of memory so it is likely that is all it has as they have no record of an upgrade.

    The cost to upgrade to 16 meg memory was a staggering £34,000 uk pounds yes THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND!!!!!!! PLUS VAT as they would need to replace the entire control system!!!!! so that is out of the question

    What sort of size program can be held with 1 meg as i have no idea

    DO NOT start dicking around with that control. except it for what it is, don't try any work around's, don't bang on it, don't even fart in its general vicinity. Haas does not have tech support, parts or service for it anymore. If so much as a board goes out the machine is useless without that retrofit from Haas at 34K pounds. ($25K in the states).

    One of the other members here in the CNC sub forum tried an upgrade and the tech grounded a board and killed the machine.

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    I pray some company comes along and makes replacement boards for the processor at some point in time. there is a board place in MD that repairs them. but you still need haas to come in and install the software.

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    Hi

    I definitely won’t be messing with the control and risking any damage,

    I may just look into a usb retro fit or setting up the rs232 so I can run a program straight from the laptop and fusion 360

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss710 View Post
    I pray some company comes along and makes replacement boards for the processor at some point in time. there is a board place in MD that repairs them. but you still need haas to come in and install the software.
    Several of us have posted locations that repair them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Il try and found someone here in the uk, I have a few cnc repair contacts so one of them will hopefully point me in the right direction if I run into problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by machineit2 View Post
    Several of us have posted locations that repair them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yes, But what about the software? Electronics are the easy part, getting around the EULA is the hard part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machineit2 View Post
    Several of us have posted locations that repair them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    then perhaps 1 of you computer savvy guys can make a sticky with all of the companies that repair the processors, Mocon/ Motif, and video boards ?

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    I have the machine now and I’m just getting it ready to run and it has the brushless servo drives and AC motors on it so that’s the better ones to have I believe

    Thanks
    Marc

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    The brushless servo drive for a 4th axis has a tag on it that says ‘Faulty’ so that will need repair if I ever get a 4th axis,

    Also the Tool release button on the spindle housing does not work at all which I have read is quite a common issues but
    Luckily the ‘Tool release’ but on the control works fine

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