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    Default Common problem with the vector drives?

    Bad vector drive in a 99 Haas VF-OE.
    Although the vector drive is originally from mid 2000's.

    Is there common components that go out in these things? Like capacitors etc???

    I see the mail-in repair services on line but wondering if anyone has successfully fixed one.


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    the biggest weak link in a vector drive is its fan.once they go things start burning up like scr's,voltage regulator. I replaced fans on dozens of vector drives in the early days.

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    We just had our Drive repaired by these guys (below) The machine was a 2007 HAAS SL-20 lathe that runs seven days a week. This machine is an important part of our shop and without it running things get tough.

    I emailed this guy on a Saturday morning expecting/hoping to hear back early Monday morning. He responded within and hour, he walked us through the process and we sent the drive out to him within a few days. I'm pretty sure that they completed the repair and shipped it back the same day that UPS dropped it off.

    To say I was impressed is an understatement. They did a great job for us and the price was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dupa3872 View Post
    We just had our Drive repaired by these guys (below) The machine was a 2007 HAAS SL-20 lathe that runs seven days a week. This machine is an important part of our shop and without it running things get tough.

    I emailed this guy on a Saturday morning expecting/hoping to hear back early Monday morning. He responded within and hour, he walked us through the process and we sent the drive out to him within a few days. I'm pretty sure that they completed the repair and shipped it back the same day that UPS dropped it off.

    To say I was impressed is an understatement. They did a great job for us and the price was right.

    John Cown
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    Worldwide Industrial Solutions
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    Toll Free:1-855-437-3497
    Phone:706-344-1480 ext. 103
    Fax: 470-231-1717

    Worldwide Industrial Solutions | 1-855-437-3497 12-month warranty

    Nice ad disguised as a message. Great way to save advertising money by answering a question I never asked. Didn't you sell me a 77 pinto?

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    I use these guys, never a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoss710 View Post
    the biggest weak link in a vector drive is its fan.once they go things start burning up like scr's,voltage regulator. I replaced fans on dozens of vector drives in the early days.

    Hey Hoss710, thanks for the quick response. Not sure what an scr is but if it is a reasonably inexpensive and common component then I would feel compelled to attempt repair myself. Have you done it? And what are your thoughts on electronic component replacement vs mail in rebuild?
    I can understand using service if I were a busy shop with a machine down. But I'm not much more than a home based hobby shop with more time on my hands and on my side than money.

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    I Used these guys. Worldwide Industrial Solutions | 1-855-437-3497 12-month warranty
    1 year warranty. price was good. ($800 If I recall). Fast turn. No issues and they will chat over the phone to help diagnose and ensure we send the right stuff / all the stuff needed. On the one I got back, I noticed many new caps in the places I could see... but there is a void sticker if I open it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryguy View Post
    I Used these guys. Worldwide Industrial Solutions | 1-855-437-3497 12-month warranty
    1 year warranty. price was good. ($800 If I recall). Fast turn. No issues and they will chat over the phone to help diagnose and ensure we send the right stuff / all the stuff needed. On the one I got back, I noticed many new caps in the places I could see... but there is a void sticker if I open it up.
    Thanks Countryguy! Their ad popped up in the form of a fake message as a first response to this post. I typically shy away from sleazy and desperate sales techniques but do feel a lot better now knowing you have had good luck with them. May even end up going that route.

    Didn't even get my machine back together yet and bought ANOTHER Haas VF-OE yesterday. Initially thought it would be great to have as a parts machine, but when we went to look at it we thought it could actually be put back to work with a little effort. This machine is polar opposite of my 98 VF-OE, completely different in options purchased. 15k spindle is one of them.

    This one is a late 1999 model. The vector drive has been yoinked by the previous owner for use in another machine. But he is including the bad one from the other machine (2004 I think). There are other electrical issues with the machine besides this that I am hoping I can fix. There will be posts on it in the near future once machine is delivered and further studied.

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    Both Watch Wes Work and Peepawmcdonald have good vids on drive repair on youtube. If it is a machine you can do without for a spell, I would definitely give it several trys.

    As far as having drives repaired, which is what I do if I cant get a true organ transplant off ebay. I use a shop that only does Fanuc drives (our Haas are newer and have never needed repair).

    I dont know if there are Haas specialist repair guys, but I would lean that way if there was.

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    Someone has posted a schematic on *zone for the older 15/20 drives.

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    to answer the ops other question a SCR is a silicone controlled rectifier .its what is fired at different frequency to give the motor different RPM. think of them as a gated rectifier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryhard View Post
    Their ad popped up in the form of a fake message as a first response to this post. I typically shy away from sleazy and desperate sales techniques but do feel a lot better now knowing you have had good luck with them. May even end up going that route.
    Not sure why you thought a legitimate response from a Mass member since 2007 was an ad for a GA co that another member vouched for too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    Not sure why you thought a legitimate response from a Mass member since 2007 was an ad for a GA co that another member vouched for too.
    Easy, officer. I'll walk you thru it.

    Nothing told me it was a legitimate response.
    The contact information he signed also matched the vendors link. (georgia)
    At the time anyway, his user profile wouldn't come up for me when I clicked the username. (I did try)
    Another member didn't vouch for the company until after my response.
    But primarily because... the response didn't match the spirit of the question.

    Only just found out the username was a real person after I read your message. Did you read all of that and miss the part where it occurred to me that at least the vendor may be legit and that I may end up giving them a shot?

    Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryhard View Post

    Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. MERRY CHRISTMAS![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
    Feelings, only feelings... Happy Kwanzaa, bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryhard View Post
    Easy, officer. I'll walk you thru it.

    Nothing told me it was a legitimate response.
    The contact information he signed also matched the vendors link. (georgia)
    At the time anyway, his user profile wouldn't come up for me when I clicked the username. (I did try)
    Another member didn't vouch for the company until after my response.
    But primarily because... the response didn't match the spirit of the question.

    Only just found out the username was a real person after I read your message. Did you read all of that and miss the part where it occurred to me that at least the vendor may be legit and that I may end up giving them a shot?

    Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. MERRY CHRISTMAS!
    the spirit of your question is - you want free answers to expensive questions, hence I wouldn't expect anyone to guide you step by step on how to fix it, this isn't a bulged cap replacement in a pc atx power supply sort of repair, replacing obviously burnt components will not fix your drive, that is why people suggest sending these out for professionals to repair

    in short - if you had the necessary electronics knowledge to even begin to diagnose and try to fix it - you wouldn't be asking these questions here, and once pro repair shops sees that someone has already been digging in there, the repair bill may get much more expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryhard View Post
    Easy, officer. I'll walk you thru it.

    Nothing told me it was a legitimate response.
    The contact information he signed also matched the vendors link. (georgia)
    At the time anyway, his user profile wouldn't come up for me when I clicked the username. (I did try)
    Another member didn't vouch for the company until after my response.
    But primarily because... the response didn't match the spirit of the question.

    Only just found out the username was a real person after I read your message. Did you read all of that and miss the part where it occurred to me that at least the vendor may be legit and that I may end up giving them a shot?

    Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. MERRY CHRISTMAS!
    No need to go to the user page to get that information. To the far right of the username, you'll find everyone's join date, location, and number of posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jz79 View Post
    the spirit of your question is - you want free answers to expensive questions, hence I wouldn't expect anyone to guide you step by step on how to fix it, this isn't a bulged cap replacement in a pc atx power supply sort of repair, replacing obviously burnt components will not fix your drive, that is why people suggest sending these out for professionals to repair

    in short - if you had the necessary electronics knowledge to even begin to diagnose and try to fix it - you wouldn't be asking these questions here, and once pro repair shops sees that someone has already been digging in there, the repair bill may get much more expensive
    LOL, damn. Must be a full moon.

    Hence my original line of questioning:

    "Is there common components that go out in these things? Like capacitors etc???
    I see the mail-in repair services on line but wondering if anyone has successfully fixed one.
    "

    What I learned today from jz79: There are no capacitors in vector drives and forums aren't for sharing information. Got it.
    Your interjection is comical at best.

    User Hoss710 answered my question as simply as asked. Be like Hoss.

    Happy Kwanzaa, bud.

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    you sound very millenialish...

    if you would have given a bit of information on your electronics skills, opened it up, did some basic diagnostics, like look for said bulged caps (yes, there are caps in these, I never said there aren't any), or other obviously damaged components, posted here a description of the problem ("bad drive" is not a description of a problem with a drive) and given some history, symptoms you previously noticed and such, then people might be more inclined to help you

    without all this - best advice for you is to forward you to a professional, which you didn't take too kindly

    and if you found Hoss710's answer useful, that tells me you know way too little to even begin to start to think about doing any repairs to it yourself, even as simple as replacing caps

    be honest and put some effort into your question, and you might see very different attitude towards you, and drop that passive aggressive crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by jz79 View Post
    you sound very millenialish...

    if you would have given a bit of information on your electronics skills, opened it up, did some basic diagnostics, like look for said bulged caps (yes, there are caps in these, I never said there aren't any), or other obviously damaged components, posted here a description of the problem ("bad drive" is not a description of a problem with a drive) and given some history, symptoms you previously noticed and such, then people might be more inclined to help you

    without all this - best advice for you is to forward you to a professional, which you didn't take too kindly

    and if you found Hoss710's answer useful, that tells me you know way too little to even begin to start to think about doing any repairs to it yourself, even as simple as replacing caps

    be honest and put some effort into your question, and you might see very different attitude towards you, and drop that passive aggressive crap
    Listen here boy. It was stupid of you to try and step in to a conversation between men. Take your soy fed know-it-all bs to another thread where you can be all knowing on topics you are more inclined to know something about.
    I didn't jump into your thread with the intention of causing trouble. That was you kiddo. Go show how stupid you are to someone else. I've seen enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jz79 View Post
    you sound very millenialish...

    if you would have given a bit of information on your electronics skills, opened it up, did some basic diagnostics, like look for said bulged caps (yes, there are caps in these, I never said there aren't any), or other obviously damaged components, posted here a description of the problem ("bad drive" is not a description of a problem with a drive) and given some history, symptoms you previously noticed and such, then people might be more inclined to help you

    without all this - best advice for you is to forward you to a professional, which you didn't take too kindly

    and if you found Hoss710's answer useful, that tells me you know way too little to even begin to start to think about doing any repairs to it yourself, even as simple as replacing caps

    be honest and put some effort into your question, and you might see very different attitude towards you, and drop that passive aggressive crap
    Hoss absolutely answered the simple questions that I asked. And it quality information.
    Hoss didn't assume that I had a bad vector drive in my possession that I had torn apart to try and fix. Did you?
    Because I don't.
    Not trying to start any fights but sure as hell ain't gonna let a good one get by me.
    Let's agree to drop it.
    Merry Christmas.


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