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Titanium
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- Feb 19, 2004
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- Staten Island NewYork USA
I'm thinking the main thread should be kept to Haas owners frustration with the 15k processor fix AKA- upgrade.
So...I have heard this question and heard some answers, but I still do not get it.
Processor dies on an older machine...it cannot be fixed, repaired or replaced by Haas.
I do not understand that.
Why? Well I deal with companies that design and build their own computer specialized systems, they have boards made in small batchs all the time. I deal with a company that retrofits their machine with its own systems that get integrated into a base machines system...all computerized.
If a chip was somebody else's and they do not have the means to use...I still cannot help but think a few brilliant people at Haas cannot reverse engineer what was done 15-20 years ago duplicating with todays technology at a fraction of the upgrade cost. Pull the processor board and make some kind of emulator board to replace it. Could be made at a price that allows HFO to make some money, a price that allows Haas proper to make some money and a price I have to think about a little before saying fix it.
I have no issues paying for a fix...but it has to be reasonable to the machine. A $15,000.00 fix on a machine that is worth $15,000.00 when running is not a sensible solution.
Been said, but I repeat like cucumbers...the $15,000.00 fix being claimed as an UPGRADE is far from an upgrade...this is not like putting a supercharger on a car so you get more power and performance. I still get same machine, same cuts, same feeds, same finish, same accuracy, same repeatability... ALL I get for $15,000.00 is the same machine back and running with a pretty screen.
So...I have heard this question and heard some answers, but I still do not get it.
Processor dies on an older machine...it cannot be fixed, repaired or replaced by Haas.
I do not understand that.
Why? Well I deal with companies that design and build their own computer specialized systems, they have boards made in small batchs all the time. I deal with a company that retrofits their machine with its own systems that get integrated into a base machines system...all computerized.
If a chip was somebody else's and they do not have the means to use...I still cannot help but think a few brilliant people at Haas cannot reverse engineer what was done 15-20 years ago duplicating with todays technology at a fraction of the upgrade cost. Pull the processor board and make some kind of emulator board to replace it. Could be made at a price that allows HFO to make some money, a price that allows Haas proper to make some money and a price I have to think about a little before saying fix it.
I have no issues paying for a fix...but it has to be reasonable to the machine. A $15,000.00 fix on a machine that is worth $15,000.00 when running is not a sensible solution.
Been said, but I repeat like cucumbers...the $15,000.00 fix being claimed as an UPGRADE is far from an upgrade...this is not like putting a supercharger on a car so you get more power and performance. I still get same machine, same cuts, same feeds, same finish, same accuracy, same repeatability... ALL I get for $15,000.00 is the same machine back and running with a pretty screen.