We have a 2014 VF2SS with the red grease and a 2016 Super mini mill 2 with the new purple grease. We are not a production shop or even a regular job shop. Usage is intermittent.
So when we bought the 2014, the red grease was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread because of the lack of tramp oil. Then when we purchase the 2016 we find out they were having issues with the red grease hence the change to purple. And from some searching, it sounds like the red was supposed to be their fix from the original "brown" grease they used first around 2010.
The 2014 has around 350 feed cutting hours, the 2016 has around 225 hours. The 2014 has no significant grease usage, the 2016 canister is almost half gone! I know a shop with the exact age VF2 with almost 600 hours, no more grease usage then ours. Same thing, doesn't get run all day everyday.
I had the covers pulled back on the 2014 6 months ago or so and one of the rails was getting some surface rust on the top of it like it wasn't getting grease. Per our hfo's advise, I used a grease gun with the Haas red grease to grease each line and try to get things flowing again and halved the lube intervals. However doesn't seem like it made a difference. Sounds like the red grease will plug up from intermittent use, if you cut certain plastics, or incompatibility with some coolants.
Our apps engineer has said we could either switch it to way lube (which he said is better then grease anyway) or switch to purple but the purple requires changing the orifices.
Has anyone made either of these switches? If you did way lube, are the lube intervals changed? Does it use a lot of oil, as in a lot of tramp oil? Did you switch it or have the HFO do it? Is there any documentation from Haas on either of these retrofits?
So when we bought the 2014, the red grease was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread because of the lack of tramp oil. Then when we purchase the 2016 we find out they were having issues with the red grease hence the change to purple. And from some searching, it sounds like the red was supposed to be their fix from the original "brown" grease they used first around 2010.
The 2014 has around 350 feed cutting hours, the 2016 has around 225 hours. The 2014 has no significant grease usage, the 2016 canister is almost half gone! I know a shop with the exact age VF2 with almost 600 hours, no more grease usage then ours. Same thing, doesn't get run all day everyday.
I had the covers pulled back on the 2014 6 months ago or so and one of the rails was getting some surface rust on the top of it like it wasn't getting grease. Per our hfo's advise, I used a grease gun with the Haas red grease to grease each line and try to get things flowing again and halved the lube intervals. However doesn't seem like it made a difference. Sounds like the red grease will plug up from intermittent use, if you cut certain plastics, or incompatibility with some coolants.
Our apps engineer has said we could either switch it to way lube (which he said is better then grease anyway) or switch to purple but the purple requires changing the orifices.
Has anyone made either of these switches? If you did way lube, are the lube intervals changed? Does it use a lot of oil, as in a lot of tramp oil? Did you switch it or have the HFO do it? Is there any documentation from Haas on either of these retrofits?