Greetings:
I've got a Ganesh Cyclone 32CS, which is a sliding headstock twin spindle not-quite-exactly-a-swiss lathe.
(no guide bushing, but otherwise, it acts like a Swiss.) It's not a Citizen, but it's been a very solid workhorse for years.
So the subspindle is out of alignment. 0.0025" down at the nose. Which I can comp for on 99% of our parts.
So it's not hurting anything right now.
Ganesh's local service contractor can handle it, but what they want to do is replace both of the subspindle X rails, both the rails and the trucks. Their take is that the rails and trucks are manufactured as matched sets, and you really can't just replace the trucks, or one set of anything, without replacing the whole mess.
The reason this matters: we blew a set of trucks on the subspindle X axis about 3 years back, and Ganesh's service guy just replaced the pair of blown trucks (forward), not the rails, or the rear trucks. New service guy is of the opinion that this is probably the root of the alignment issue: non-matched trucks on old rails, not matching the rear trucks either.
A sometime machine rebuilder who I respect is of the opinion that you don't need to match grind the rails and trucks, and swapping just one set of trucks, on one rail, is perfectly fine.
I can see both points of view, and am looking for second opinions? Replace the trucks again, or do the whole mess, trucks, rails and all?
I've already gone round with Ganesh about the cost of the replacement rails, so that's not an issue.
What I'm after is to understand whether or not it's really necessary to replace the rails and trucks as a unit, and then what tests to perform to certify that the thing's back into alignment after it's all done.
I want to make it clear here that while I'm not exactly thrilled with Ganesh at the moment, especially regarding what may have been a fouled up service call a few years back, the machine itself has more than earned its keep, and I'm quite happy with it. A good part of this may be because I didn't know enough at the time of the first service call to spot a potential problem.
Thus my question here: what really is necessary, and how do I inspect to make sure it's all working right when this one's done?
Regards,
Brian
I've got a Ganesh Cyclone 32CS, which is a sliding headstock twin spindle not-quite-exactly-a-swiss lathe.
(no guide bushing, but otherwise, it acts like a Swiss.) It's not a Citizen, but it's been a very solid workhorse for years.
So the subspindle is out of alignment. 0.0025" down at the nose. Which I can comp for on 99% of our parts.
So it's not hurting anything right now.
Ganesh's local service contractor can handle it, but what they want to do is replace both of the subspindle X rails, both the rails and the trucks. Their take is that the rails and trucks are manufactured as matched sets, and you really can't just replace the trucks, or one set of anything, without replacing the whole mess.
The reason this matters: we blew a set of trucks on the subspindle X axis about 3 years back, and Ganesh's service guy just replaced the pair of blown trucks (forward), not the rails, or the rear trucks. New service guy is of the opinion that this is probably the root of the alignment issue: non-matched trucks on old rails, not matching the rear trucks either.
A sometime machine rebuilder who I respect is of the opinion that you don't need to match grind the rails and trucks, and swapping just one set of trucks, on one rail, is perfectly fine.
I can see both points of view, and am looking for second opinions? Replace the trucks again, or do the whole mess, trucks, rails and all?
I've already gone round with Ganesh about the cost of the replacement rails, so that's not an issue.
What I'm after is to understand whether or not it's really necessary to replace the rails and trucks as a unit, and then what tests to perform to certify that the thing's back into alignment after it's all done.
I want to make it clear here that while I'm not exactly thrilled with Ganesh at the moment, especially regarding what may have been a fouled up service call a few years back, the machine itself has more than earned its keep, and I'm quite happy with it. A good part of this may be because I didn't know enough at the time of the first service call to spot a potential problem.
Thus my question here: what really is necessary, and how do I inspect to make sure it's all working right when this one's done?
Regards,
Brian