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    If vendor completes his mission and gets the thing out and to a place where I can load I have secured a 100tm hiab on an artic.
    The quotes I have had have ranged from £5000 unloaded in pieces outside my shop to £10000 plus.
    Also trying yo get machine movers to quote and complete the task in very very short notice is very hard

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    I always just hired a truck with Hiab with driver/operater They also have proper lifting gear on board
    Most of the time we prepared everything with 2 people Otherwise just one Hire some toejacks to get the machine off the foundation Just to make sure you have all the ankerbolts of
    We always fiddeled around with the lifting point till it was perfectly balanced
    Inside we used lifting beams (I prefered a piece of heavy pipe heavy enoug for the job)
    A double sling as a lifting point and you can slide that to get it perfectly balanced
    A 80Ton/mtr truck with hiab and driver was about €100/Hr
    If you get a crew machinemovers in then it gets expensive real fast

    You could also make the machine a bit lighter by taking the table off with the overhead cranes


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    I take it Franna cranes are not common in the UK?

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    Typo £7500

    Machine is now broken down

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    Joe corner has sold to someone else after Ive booked said heavy truck and crane.
    He gave me quotes for me to check out to find said movers are not interested or cannot do it in the time scale required and has cheek to come on here and call me a messer.
    Drains my fucking loins tbh

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    I am surprised it sold for that price. I was under the understanding some years back, old stuff like that was just all going to scrap or India.

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    Remember a few years back machtool sent one back to England!
    We’ve hit a point where theres f/a left and little vmcs tickling bits of ally to death isnt the be all and end all and not much use for real world work
    There is only one machine rebuilders of any use left in the uk and that grinder is a rare thing and would have allowed me to take on a job worth doing (non machine tool)
    Hey ho I heard amazon drivers do ok so I might weigh the lot in

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    pressbrake

    Sorry to hear that. I didn't have anything helpful to contribute but I was quietly cheering for you hoping it was going to work out.

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    Did you pay him before you booked the truck and crane
    That would have been the proper sequence


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    Quote Originally Posted by RC99 View Post
    I am surprised it sold for that price. I was under the understanding some years back, old stuff like that was just all going to scrap or India.
    I'm just glad my home state had gotten out of the "divorce argument" business - "always three sides. His. Hers. The facts"

    ...before I went through one.

    They don't want to know about the "why". Just show up with an agreed property settlement and child support package already executed and witnessed, (if, even there are children), they just FILE it. No drama.

    Or don't even darken their door. Not the State's problem.

    Sometimes business deals have the same "three sides", too? Not PM's problem, either.

    If only because we could not "fix it" anyway, once gone pear-shaped. Wasn't "just" a rigging challenge, was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter from Holland View Post
    Did you pay him before you booked the truck and crane
    That would have been the proper sequence


    Peter
    One does not pay for a machine before its been disassembled if you or your contractors are not involved
    Ive been there before having to sue someone to get my money back after they broke it
    I don’t know or trust the vendor either

    Its a new day and I don’t care anymore. I would think the vendor paid less than scrap and had a nice profit, the little man still wins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pressbrake1 View Post
    One does not pay for a machine before its been disassembled if you or your contractors are not involved
    Ive been there before having to sue someone to get my money back after they broke it
    I don’t know or trust the vendor either
    Peter's point is valid in the Nederlands. And the EU. And under Uniform Commercial Code, USA, all states. Strong hint that means UK as well, because that's where we got our start FROM.

    If you don't OWN the goods, you take your chances they might become yours, later. Or never.

    "Chances" are not the same as contracted assurances until "consideration" changes hands ...and both parties agree it so.

    "Trust" or not, when worked intelligently, Lawsters are pleased to go off and find some other matter to earn a crust off of, because resolution of shortcoming, disputes of details, or damage are also roads well-known.

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    Machine movers suck

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    We have had a chat and found the riggers/ machine movers were playing silly boys between us causing a fall out.

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    You should have wheeled Tyrone out of the old person's home and got him on the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC99 View Post
    You should have wheeled Tyrone out of the old person's home and got him on the job.
    After his career? Not 'is OWN mass, so much... but his idea of reliable wheels?

    Prolly need to lay broad-gage rail or put down grillage & plate over a 100 miles of motorway so the great Iron wheels didn't tear it up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pressbrake1 View Post
    Machine movers suck
    Not when they are bending you over, they do not.

    Short necks, and won't even offer to reach-around.

    You did say "machine movers"?




    But (don't) screw them... "whither and hence" the endangered-species grinder, at the end of the day?

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    [QUOTE=thermite;3397969]Not when they are bending you over, they do not.

    Short necks, and won't even offer to reach-around.

    You did say "machine movers"?

    Yes thats what they are called here.

    Please stop dragging a dead thread on please.

    Haven’t you got a neighbour that needs aggravating

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    Quote Originally Posted by pressbrake1 View Post
    Please stop dragging a dead thread on please.
    It was left having gone terminally pear-haped.

    Then you post having sorted "issues" with the seller vis a vis movers playing silly-buggers.

    At which point one wonders if said sorting included salvaging the grinder.... in any way?


    Haven’t you got a neighbour that needs aggravating
    Surely. But 'es in East Saxe. Time zone thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RC99 View Post
    You should have wheeled Tyrone out of the old person's home and got him on the job.
    I'm out in Espana at the moment RC. Not back in the UK until September. Once upon a time I'd have volunteered to help but even I haven't got a magic wand. The thirty year old Tyrone would have relished the job, the seventy year old Tyrone would have been strictly advice only.

    Regards Tyrone.

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