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    Quote Originally Posted by Milacron View Post

    Oh wait, there was one other manual Deckel, a second generation Deckel FP2 at auction in Sanford, NC of all crazy places...
    Here's a shop with a pair of FP-1s. They are listed under miscellaneous.
    Joma Machine Company

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milacron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chip Chester
    Atlas arbor press?
    I think that's a different Atlas
    Useless trivia, but that's actually the same company: the Atlas Press Company was founded 1911 as the G. T. Eames Co. to make arbor presses. In 1919, they changed the name to the Atlas Press Co. They eventually bought Clausing, but sold off the Eames/Atlas arbor presses to Dake, and the Dake arbor presses sold now are identical to the 100 year old Eames, to the point that the parts are interchangeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin5 View Post
    Note PM is a manufacturing forum, not a home shop forum....therefore, do not advertise the following-

    1. Atlas
    2. Craftsman, Dunlap
    3. Any horizontal shapers (ok in Antique Machinery forum however)
    4. Any Chinese or Taiwanese home shop grade machines
    5. Unimat
    6. Any antique machines or tools (ok in Antique Machinery forum however)
    7. Taig, Sherline
    No.4 above. And the banner ad at the top of this page selling Chinese made mills, branded 'home shop'

    Can I sell my amature mill if i buy a banner ad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taity View Post

    Can I sell my amature mill if i buy a banner ad?
    If it's CNC, not designed in China, and good quality you can advertise a home shop touted Chinese made machine without buying a banner ad. Lots of gray areas in this list and I can't list them all. If you want to find some "violations" of the rules you will find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taity View Post
    No.4 above. And the banner ad at the top of this page selling Chinese made mills, branded 'home shop'

    Can I sell my amature mill if i buy a banner ad?
    You can't sell anything if you have under 50 post's, nor if you don't
    follow the rules....quit whining.

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    It's ashamed this forum can't have a whole Home Shop section. If it was my forum I would welcome the traffic and the additional information.

    After all, home shops are typically run by Practical Machinists!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoot View Post
    It's ashamed this forum can't have a whole Home Shop section. If it was my forum I would welcome the traffic and the additional information.

    After all, home shops are typically run by Practical Machinists!!!!
    Yeah well, there's probably more than just one person hoping this would happen, but I think it would lead to a "traffic jam". There's plenty of HMS sites out there. Most of us like the way this is run. For lack of a better word, I think it would contaminate this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Behner View Post
    Yeah well, there's probably more than just one person hoping this would happen, but I think it would lead to a "traffic jam". There's plenty of HMS sites out there. Most of us like the way this is run. For lack of a better word, I think it would contaminate this site.
    I do understand the "contamination" issue. On the other hand, you'd be surprised at the amount of tips and tricks they have to offer.
    I'm new here so I haven't had a chance to see the breadth of this site. You have CNC people who can't chase a thread. Can chase a thread but have no clue about code.

    I'm a machinist, toolmaker, moldmaker, and programmer. Currently I do not work in the trade. I have just purchased a SB 10K lathe which some might argue is a home shop machine. I am working on getting a Bridgeport mill. This is for my home shop.

    Should I be disqualified even though I have been in the industry since 1974?

    Am I not a "Practical Machinist"?

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    We have a South Bend section. Why aren't you there?
    South Bend Lathes

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDRIVE View Post
    We have a South Bend section. Why aren't you there?
    South Bend Lathes
    I am and I posted my serial number and model info there. I'm just asking some questions here because I didn't realize this forum was limited.
    Thanks for the forum. I know it takes time to run these things.

    Mike

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    I'm not in the practical machinist category and it bugs me when I read some of the blanket putdowns of certain types of equipment but truthfully I like the way this forum is. There are other home shop forums and some incredible people, machines and workmanship can be found on them. Having said that..... there are some, not badly intentioned, people on those forums who don't seem to have a clue about machinery, mechanics, electricity, carpentry, etc., pick one, pick them all. You rarely find that on this forum. The administrator and members can be sarcastic sob's on occasion when they run into this but maybe that's what keeps it the way it is and separates it from the others. It's not perfect but the amount of knowledge here.... from subjects you didn't think would interest you is amazing and keeps it one of the best.

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    I'm a hobbiest. I fly RC helicopters and planes. I got the lathe to make prototype parts from ideas. Gotta have a mill too so I should be getting a Bridgeport soon.

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    BTW, In the late 1930's to mid 1940's Atlas were branded "Sphere" in the UK and marked as being "British Made".

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    Its incredibly easy. You just follow the rules about machinery discussion. No one cares if all you do is HSM. If you want to name and talk about the restricted machinery, you just need to do that somewhere else.

    Machinery Discussion Guidelines

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    How about MillRite mills?? We use one every day here in the mold shop!

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    I can't believe that people who want us to believe they have the skill sets to do machine work can be so obtuse about the content rules in a forum. The list has been posted, all you have to do is read it and carry on. Rules are rules, if you don't like them ,the rule is you can move on. This should not be that difficult to fathom .

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    I agree with Ray Behner, as I often do. You can nitpick any rules, which is why laws are often so long and complicated even when they are regulating a simple subject. I am happy with the rules the way they are. BTW, I have owned a Millrite and run another for a couple of years. They are simple basic machines, but capable of good work, in a totally different class from the mill drill trash. Re South Bends, the smaller ones are marginal, but I have been running a 14 1/2" swing one since 1975 in professional service. Right now I am making 150 parts for sale from 4 3/4" 6061 bar stock, turning the main features on the Sheldon, parting them off, and facing the backside on the South Bend, using it as a second operation machine. Not high volume production, but I think qualifying as production by any standards you can set up.

    If you leave the rules as they are, it is fine with me.

    Bill

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    Do i post my wanted for antique machines then, not in classified
    but in antique and history discussion even if it's a for sale or wanted?

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    [QUOTE=jim rozen;1697649 horizontal shapers - all at one time were used in
    manufacturing. But not any more of course. [/QUOTE]

    I run horizontal shapers and vertical shapers everyday.... some parts can't be made economically without one... but it is your BBQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksmithandmac View Post
    Do i post my wanted for antique machines then, not in classified
    but in antique and history discussion even if it's a for sale or wanted?
    You have it right


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