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    Default Old southbend lathe 3 1/2 bed in AMAZING condition.

    Previous owner of this Lathe was absolutely meticulous in the care and maintenance of this machine. You can see this is true by the attached pictures.

    I'm looking to sell the lathe and am hoping one of you experts in the field can help me put a price tag on it? I greatly appreciate any help, and I hope to get this fantastic lathe to a new home soon.

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    put it on flea bay only post you have is to sell something

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    It's worthless. I'll do you a favor and take it off your hands.


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    What is the OP willing to pay an expert to appraise this lathe?

    (I'm not an expert, just curious)

    L7

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    $10-20 grand easy


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    It has been repainted. It looks good, but the ways and the rest of the machine must be inspected before top dollar can be asked. It is old and it is used. My best guess is about $4000.

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    Steve-I, how do you know it's been repainted?

    Just curious, not interested in buying this lathe.

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    I'm curious too.

    The entire lathe is just so clean, original paint would not be unexpected.

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    The name plates do not look correct for a true South Bend unless this is one of the very last units made by them and South Bend changed their logo.

    It does have the D1 spindle in it.

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    Exclamation

    unless proven otherwise, agree w/ Steve.

    it does not appear to have made a chip since the paint job, which to someone's credit was very well done...even better than SB did it....I don't think SB ever polished chip pans either??
    Unless well tooled 4K is high in my book...the SB'ers are slowly pricing themselves out of the market...5K can get a new Taiwanese 12/13" with accessories and a inch/metric gearbox...and they are getting quite good.

    as much as I love the SBs it just the way it is.


    PS- don't know why that little red exclamation is up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky7 View Post
    Steve-I, how do you know it's been repainted?

    Just curious, not interested in buying this lathe.

    L7
    The name plate is now held in place with screws. Originally, the factory used rivets.

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    SB did use screws in late production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    unless proven otherwise, agree w/ Steve.

    it does not appear to have made a chip since the paint job, which to someone's credit was very well done...even better than SB did it....I don't think SB ever polished chip pans either??
    Unless well tooled 4K is high in my book...the SB'ers are slowly pricing themselves out of the market...5K can get a new Taiwanese 12/13" with accessories and a inch/metric gearbox...and they are getting quite good.

    as much as I love the SBs it just the way it is.


    PS- don't know why that little red exclamation is up there.
    It does have a TA, which is not only scarcer than hen's teeth, but was an expensive accessory new. I agree on the accessory and tooling statement you made. Another reason to inspect first.

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    Would that be 4,000 reichsmark or 500. Americhan

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    Talk about timing, just came across this in an auction, shows screws in plate. Nowhere near as clean tho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    unless proven otherwise, agree w/ Steve.

    it does not appear to have made a chip since the paint job, which to someone's credit was very well done...even better than SB did it....I don't think SB ever polished chip pans either??
    Unless well tooled 4K is high in my book...the SB'ers are slowly pricing themselves out of the market...5K can get a new Taiwanese 12/13" with accessories and a inch/metric gearbox...and they are getting quite good.

    as much as I love the SBs it just the way it is.


    PS- don't know why that little red exclamation is up there.
    I noticed even the tool holders look new, no rust or dings! I would think 4k maybe for a SB enthusiast (hell I lived there when the building was still around, too rich for me), but for an actual machine tool, probably not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    SB did use screws in late production.
    +1. My buddy just bought a fairly late vintage SB 10L with the phillips head screws holding
    the QC gearbox plate on.

    However his nameplate shows it as being an Amistat machine, I think those were after the
    ESOP buy-out, yes?

    Also this machine seems to have the socket head screws holding down the bearing caps, with
    paint on them. I think that suggests a re-paint? Little tough to see in the photos. Still a very
    good one, if it is a re-paint. Ditto on the chip pan being clear of paint, that's not stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwananew10K View Post
    unless proven otherwise, agree w/ Steve.

    it does not appear to have made a chip since the paint job, which to someone's credit was very well done...even better than SB did it....I don't think SB ever polished chip pans either??
    Unless well tooled 4K is high in my book...the SB'ers are slowly pricing themselves out of the market...5K can get a new Taiwanese 12/13" with accessories and a inch/metric gearbox...and they are getting quite good.

    as much as I love the SBs it just the way it is.


    PS- don't know why that little red exclamation is up there.
    Pricing themselves out of the market is exactly why Grizzly Tools is now selling merchandise with larger than life South Bend logos all over it.

    Them and Myford ended their days trying to sell the same old stuff (with updated trim!)for prices a mob lawyer would be ashamed to charge out.

    Dunno if it's a repaint or not. Wouldn't want to say 'never', when it comes to the finish on a product that is put out the door by a last ditch effort to keep a company afloat. Esp. not without seeing it first hand.

    Serial number will tell you the year of birth. More or less.

    The lathe looks good, has the camlock spindle, a plus, so it should draw some fair money, esp out west, where there are far fewer to choose among, than in the Eastern rust belt.

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    I sold my exact copy of that lathe (same length, hard bed, D1-4 spindle, taper, exc cond) in 2017, WELL TOOLED, for $4,200 and a guy drove from Michigan to Virginia to buy it.

    Quality South Bends sell for good money. The ragged out crap on CL does not.

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    I am surprised it doesn't have tool tray and collet holder. Also appears to have an oil stain on the headstock under the front oiler.

    Tom


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