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    There may be other machines that you would/might like
    what are the criteria?
    Perhaps:
    bench model
    gear drive
    power feed
    high precision
    RPM range
    size capacity.
    Clausing, Wilton Strand and Ibarmia made some decent machines.

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    Seek out a High Speed Hammer drilling machine. You will not regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post
    There may be other machines that you would/might like
    what are the criteria?
    Perhaps:
    bench model
    gear drive
    power feed
    high precision
    RPM range
    size capacity.
    Clausing, Wilton Strand and Ibarmia made some decent machines.
    These look pretty solid, certainly adding them to the search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolcombe View Post
    These look pretty solid, certainly adding them to the search.
    Most of those on Buck's last line that I have seen were floor models?
    As was the UK-made "Wolf" - which had some neat features.

    Disclosure:

    Walker-Tuner medium (benchtop). Electro-Mechano "sensitive" (benchtop).

    Alzmetall AB5/S "heavy". I use its massive rectangular table - swung out from under the head - AS a bench!

    Kinda handy to have adjustable height for vises and such, and it more than pays-back the space the bugger otherwise consumes.

    You might inquire of "Willis"?

    Machine Tool Supplier Serving North America - Willis Machinery

    Helpful folk. Very.

    And have been drill press importers and US support outfit, several "industrial grade" brands, for over half a century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L Vanice View Post
    I have a German benchtop drill press that I would sell. The maker is G. Boley (Boley Brothers in English). It is a small sensitive drill with a stationary head that takes 8 mm WW collets and the table rises with a lever control. The largest drill chuck normally used with such a machine would be a Jacobs 1A (1/4" capacity), but it can be equipped with a Jacobs 0 or Albrecht 1/16"or1/8" chucks.

    Larry
    I took some pictures today. Note that the column is the same as a G. Boley WW pattern watch lathe. The headstock is special for the drilling application, as is the pedestal. A G. Boley WW watch lathe tailstock that holds WW 8 mm collets and has the OEM lever feed is used to support and feed the table, which is on a WW collet arbor. Drill bits can be held in WW collets or in a standard drill chuck on a WW arbor. I am guessing that this rig was built before 1939. Note the Westinhouse 1725 RPM motor has exposed binding posts to attach the power cord. I can weld a 5 mm diameter polyurethane belt to fit. I think I have never even plugged it in. I would have installed a different motor if I had decided to use it in the several decades since I bought it. The sensitive drill press I actually use is a Sigourney.

    Larry

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolcombe View Post
    Milacron, that Solberga is fantastic but I want a machine with a table.
    Brian? I'm kinda anal about having very good wheels and high-grade tires on my motorcars, too, but .. I DO select the motorcar first and seek the round stuff separately.

    A "table" for a DP of that capability that was DESIGNED to be mounted to a third-party structure is JUST NOT hard to arrange.

    And Oy!

    The choices it gives you as to optimizing for YOUR needs!

    And changing stuff. More than just the one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jz79 View Post
    calling that P18 just a drill press is a bit of an insult
    Yes, but one you can probably survive and walk away from, still in one piece.

    Tell a 7 HP #5 MT Alzmetall AB5/S it is "just a drillpress"?

    4400 Avoir of Heavy-Hams-Hans might take offense and "moonlight" as a meat-grinder?

    That Solberga self-contained "building block" DP is a whole lot closer to "Goldilocks-useful" general-purpose size?

    Blanchard-ground steel plate is sold as a commodity item. And tee-slot bed plates. Legs - or a bespoke bench - aren't hard, either. It already HAS elevation built-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    Brian? I'm kinda anal about having very good wheels and high-grade tires on my motorcars, too, but .. I DO select the motorcar first and seek the round stuff separately.

    A "table" for a DP of that capability that was DESIGNED to be mounted to a third-party structure is JUST NOT hard to arrange.

    And Oy!

    The choices it gives you as to optimizing for YOUR needs!

    And changing stuff. More than just the one time.
    I have a small space and need a very moderately sized drill press, but I want it to be really nice.

    I might just buy and import a flott. The TB and SB18 look nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolcombe View Post
    I have a small space and need a very moderately sized drill press, but I want it to be really nice.

    I might just buy and import a flott. The TB and SB18 look nice.
    That one Don has could be "custom sized" for a table to need but HALF the space my little Walker-Turner benchtop takes-up.

    Y'see.. the W-T has the motor and countershafts up-top and ... hanging out the BACK off the column.

    If I had to choose but ONE, and choose by which one I USE the most?

    The big Alzmetall AB5/S AND the "sensitive" Electro-Mecano would both fail to earn their keep.. the W-T would be the "keeper".

    That size, no rear overhang, and far the better as to accuracy and flexibility?

    Like a Goldilocks W-T format,, but built with a blank cheque instead of DOWN to a price-point!

    "sensitive" drilling I can "fake" on the mill if need be.

    So, too, uber large holes, even if I have to use a boring head or a rotab.

    2CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolcombe View Post
    I have a small space and need a very moderately sized drill press, but I want it to be really nice.

    I might just buy and import a flott. The TB and SB18 look nice.

    Shipping for the little benchtop Flott or Alzmetall should be reasonable. Peter in Holland has very reasonable shipping prices. Don't know if he has a benchtop in stock right now. Getting one from Europe is really your only option if you want a benchtop German drill press, cause they are unobtanium here.

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    I think I'll reach out to Peter and see about one of the bench top machines.

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    Just a heads up to stay vigilant. Two people have tried to scam me via private messages. They request me to email them, then send photos of a machine fitting my description.

    What defeated both of these scams was an insistence to speak on the phone (they will find an excuse not to) and do an image search.

    The first guy was a goof, sent me a photo of a Delta drill press before sending pictures of an Alzmetall. The second was well written, played it cool and sent me photos of a flott TB16. These scams have been super obvious in the past (delta drill press dude was obvious) but the most recent one with the flott nearly got me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolcombe View Post
    Just a heads up to stay vigilant. Two people have tried to scam me via private messages. They request me to email them, then send photos of a machine fitting my description.

    What defeated both of these scams was an insistence to speak on the phone (they will find an excuse not to) and do an image search.

    The first guy was a goof, sent me a photo of a Delta drill press before sending pictures of an Alzmetall. The second was well written, played it cool and sent me photos of a flott TB16. These scams have been super obvious in the past (delta drill press dude was obvious) but the most recent one with the flott nearly got me.

    There's a lot of scams involving Schaublin, Aciera, Alzmetall, Deckel, Eckold and other desirable Euro equipment. I almost got scammed by a guy in England a few year ago. It was for an Eckold on Ebay. I felt something didn't seem right because the seller advertised the machine as residing in the Isles of Scilly, which is a very odd place to have that machine. After contacting the police in Penzance, I realized it was a scam , when the police told me no manufacturing of the sort exists in Scilly.

    UK craigslist is full of scams for Martin woodworking equipment, Ecjold, Schaublins, Aciera, Hauser etc.. There is a long running Acier F1 scam here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolcombe View Post
    Just a heads up to stay vigilant. Two people have tried to scam me via private messages. They request me to email them, then send photos of a machine fitting my description.

    What defeated both of these scams was an insistence to speak on the phone (they will find an excuse not to) and do an image search.

    The first guy was a goof, sent me a photo of a Delta drill press before sending pictures of an Alzmetall. The second was well written, played it cool and sent me photos of a flott TB16. These scams have been super obvious in the past (delta drill press dude was obvious) but the most recent one with the flott nearly got me.
    Someone tried to scam me by sending me pictures of the part I was looking for and asking way less that it was worth.
    They had taken the pictures off of ebay and google images, …
    They would only text and email and I had an uneasy feeling. Suspicions confirmed when they insisted on PayPal family & friends payment and once I saw they had scraped images from the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolcombe View Post
    Looking for a nice bench top drill press, and certainly prefer European manufactures. Please send me a PM if you have one and are interested in selling it.

    I'm located in NJ and willing to travel or have it shipped.

    Thank you
    Brian
    Probably not what you’re looking for, but I have a Burgmaster turret drill with 6 chucks on it (can be chucks, tapping heads, …)
    Table is mint, no drill marks on it.


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    Didn’t know that about euro equipment but it makes sense.

    I did contact Peter but the drill he has is too large for my needs.

    That burgmaster is super cool but not what I’m looking for.

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    You might look at Electro-Mechano ? They are pretty nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolcombe View Post
    That burgmaster is super cool but not what I’m looking for.
    Yeah, I figured probably not what you wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    You might look at Electro-Mechano ? They are pretty nice.
    They are pretty TINY, too!

    Works as "Goldilocks and the three bears", if you HAVE three, but not well as a one-and-only.

    Electro-Mechano -> Walker-Turner -> Alzmetall AB5/S

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    They are pretty TINY, too!
    They made bigger ones. 15" that I know of, both floor standing and benchtop. Geared head, not belt drive.



    fleabay, mike kandu, grab yer kevlar undies, $2500

    ELECTRO MECHANO DRILL PRESS

    Model: 801 Year: 1968 S/N: 68335
    Drills to center of circle 20 in.
    Quill travel 8 in.
    Quill diameter 2-9/16 in.
    Spindle speed 100-2800 RPM
    Spindle nose 3 Morse
    Column diameter 4 in.
    Column wall ½ in.
    Working surface of base
    Floor 13 x 17 in.
    Working surface of table
    Production 12 x 16 in.
    Spindle nose to table max. 34 in.
    Spindle nose to base max.
    Floor 49 in.
    Overall height, width, depth
    Floor 80 x 20 x 27 in.
    Motor 1 HP/1140 RPM
    220/440/3 ph
    Capacity cast iron 1 in.
    Runout Morse spindle Max. .001 in, on test bar 2 in. from nose
    Chuck Keyless ½ in. capacity
    Spindle square to base or table Within .002 in. @ 6 in. radius
    Shipping weight Approx. 620 lbs.


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