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    Quote Originally Posted by BoscoDrummer View Post
    not a SAG 12 but maybe you might be interested in a SAG 180.

    yes it's far but just stumbles across this one on the flea bay

    Graciano Sag 180 Lath great condition 1st | eBay
    Thanks for the tip, it does look good. Unfortunately like you said, way too far from me. Too big for my shop anyway
    Yeah, I need a bigger shop!

    --cheers

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    Default Shaggy Sag 12 Search - UPDATE

    Guys, just want to report that I'm very close, at last, to aquiring my Sag 12, thanks to dalmatiangirl61 seeing a nice-looking one and very kindly pointing it out to me.

    I'll update in a brand-new thread once I have the fair machine in my crusty claws

    In the meantime, I'd still love to hear of the whereabouts and, if possible, the history of any other Sag 12 that might come to light. PM me, or post here.

    Many thanks to all who posted and assisted me in my quest

    --shaggy
    Last edited by shaggy; 11-03-2020 at 10:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaggy View Post
    ...I'll update in a brand-new thread...
    Why? Everyone who is interested is already in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezduzit View Post
    Why? Everyone who is interested is already in this thread.
    Because this is the Wanted to Buy / Sell forum, where I was seeking help in finding a particular machine to buy.

    Once I get the new machine home I hope it'll deserve a thread of it's own in the specific machine forum, where people relate experiences with mechanical issues, etc.

    Possibly more to the point, someone new to PM wouldn't come to the WTB/Sell forum looking for mechanical info - they'd search the specific machine forum(s).

    For anyone who's been following this thread and is still interested, there'll be a link to the new thread.

    Thanks!

    --shaggy

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    After working on a SAG with the electronic shifting I'd never own one. 4 or was it 6 electromagnet clutches in an oil bath, wires were brittle and cracked, needle bearings not standard sizes, etc.
    To many other nice machines out there to even consider one of these.

    Mr Bridgeport

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bridgeport View Post
    After working on a SAG with the electronic shifting I'd never own one. 4 or was it 6 electromagnet clutches in an oil bath, wires were brittle and cracked, needle bearings not standard sizes, etc.
    To many other nice machines out there to even consider one of these.

    Mr Bridgeport
    Hmm, thanks for your input. That's certainly worth throwing into the mix, depending on how the auction goes. I'm waiting on a call from the machine instructor at the college to find out more before I make a final bid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bridgeport View Post
    After working on a SAG with the electronic shifting I'd never own one. 4 or was it 6 electromagnet clutches in an oil bath, wires were brittle and cracked, needle bearings not standard sizes, etc.
    To many other nice machines out there to even consider one of these.

    Mr Bridgeport
    "... 4 or was it 6 electromagnet clutches in an oil bath, wires were brittle and cracked, needle bearings not standard sizes, etc. "

    Those sound like features not bugs to an old Ducati guy like myself! Anyhow, this particular machine has no electrical, clutch or gearbox issues, according to the instructor who ran it.

    Btw I'd like to know where you're seeing so many other nice machines, 'cause I'm not, and I've been looking hard. Though admittedly for a specific size and type.
    Come to think of it... just like this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaggy View Post
    "... 4 or was it 6 electromagnet clutches in an oil bath..."
    Hardinge built a very highly regarded machine which also had some of these.

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    Default Finally, *my* Sag 12!

    OK OK, you guys -- I've gone and did it!

    She's mine, all MINE

    sag-12-ii.jpg


    'Mille grazi' to all of you for helping in the search

    ..even those who tried to talk me out of it(!)


    Planning the big road trip to bring her home next week

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    I am green with envy. Congratulations!

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    woohoo! Now you just need to take that chuck off the top of the headstock and replace it with an expresso machine and you're set

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattthemuppet View Post
    woohoo! Now you just need to take that chuck off the top of the headstock and replace it with an expresso machine and you're set
    haha! Good one!

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    Well, it just so happens that I have one - might sell it.

    way back in 1990 my company setup a large machine shop (pre CNC) bought all new stuff including this SAG12 with all the trimmings. But every time they went to use it, the internal overloads cut out. They never cut anything more than acrylic - got no where. The vendor sent techs several times to fix it but always failed. In disgust, the shop manager sent it to storage.
    5 years later they're clearing out stuff and put it up for sale. I got insider info that employees had first crack at it for 1/2 book value - at the time book value was $300 so I got it for $150 with ALL the accessories. I put it in my grandfather's garage (I had an apt at the time), made up a phase convertor and turned it on.. just as before, it cut out right away. Had my union electrician father look at it, he found the problem in 10 mins.. wrong value overloads. $11 for new ones and it's been perfect ever since. I moved it years later to my Hanger where it's been ever since, but in a few months it will be going to my new shop 100 miles away.
    btw, right now it's in Santee, CA - just east of San Diego. It's had very little use over the years.. i think the last time I had it running was well over a year ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTMachinedesign View Post
    Well, it just so happens that I have one - might sell it.

    way back in 1990 my company setup a large machine shop (pre CNC) bought all new stuff including this SAG12 with all the trimmings. But every time they went to use it, the internal overloads cut out. They never cut anything more than acrylic - got no where. The vendor sent techs several times to fix it but always failed. In disgust, the shop manager sent it to storage.
    5 years later they're clearing out stuff and put it up for sale. I got insider info that employees had first crack at it for 1/2 book value - at the time book value was $300 so I got it for $150 with ALL the accessories. I put it in my grandfather's garage (I had an apt at the time), made up a phase convertor and turned it on.. just as before, it cut out right away. Had my union electrician father look at it, he found the problem in 10 mins.. wrong value overloads. $11 for new ones and it's been perfect ever since. I moved it years later to my Hanger where it's been ever since, but in a few months it will be going to my new shop 100 miles away.
    btw, right now it's in Santee, CA - just east of San Diego. It's had very little use over the years.. i think the last time I had it running was well over a year ago.
    Wow, unbelievable! And perfect timing! oh wait.. I just paid top dollar for a beat up one and drove 1600 miles to get it

    (whistling) I'm now going to go on with my day as if your post never happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTMachinedesign View Post
    Well, it just so happens that I have one - might sell it.

    way back in 1990 my company setup a large machine shop (pre CNC) bought all new stuff including this SAG12 with all the trimmings. But every time they went to use it, the internal overloads cut out. They never cut anything more than acrylic - got no where. The vendor sent techs several times to fix it but always failed. In disgust, the shop manager sent it to storage.
    5 years later they're clearing out stuff and put it up for sale. I got insider info that employees had first crack at it for 1/2 book value - at the time book value was $300 so I got it for $150 with ALL the accessories. I put it in my grandfather's garage (I had an apt at the time), made up a phase convertor and turned it on.. just as before, it cut out right away. Had my union electrician father look at it, he found the problem in 10 mins.. wrong value overloads. $11 for new ones and it's been perfect ever since. I moved it years later to my Hanger where it's been ever since, but in a few months it will be going to my new shop 100 miles away.
    btw, right now it's in Santee, CA - just east of San Diego. It's had very little use over the years.. i think the last time I had it running was well over a year ago.
    um... sorry for over-reacting

    I'm sure you will easily find a buyer. How much are you asking for it?

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    In 1990 “book value” on a sag 12 with all accessories was about $8200, based on a 1992 order receipt. Toolpost was extra.


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