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    Quote Originally Posted by jscpm View Post
    The eternal thread.

    I will post again, although I have posted the same logic previously.

    The key thing to be aware of is that there is a failure to validate the idea of "COVID-19". . .
    Pretty huge (and incorrect) leap from the cited article to your idea that labs haven't validated the idea of Covid-19.

    Here's the Bustin 2020 article. It says labs need to better standardize their methods. file:///Users/admin/Downloads/ijms-21-03004.pdf

    What can be said is that most every test has false positives and false negatives - and sloppy lab work can increase the rate of both. A sensible testing regime would use a quick and cheap test that had very few false negatives, at the risk of a higher rate of false positives. Following that test with a more accurate test (for the tiny fraction that tested positive in the first place) would make sense.

    New Zealand, due to its mostly intelligent response to the pandemic, had low rates of infection. But lo and behold those who did get it, tested positive repeatedly. Bustin isn't questioning the reality of this RNA virus. He just wants labs to do a better job of quickly and effectively testing for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG
    I've heard
    Hmmm, lot of that seems to originate on less than reliable outlets, judging by past efforts.

    Imagine it would be a daunting task in highly infected populations like the US, all positive cases here are sequenced to trace where they originated, it's for contact tracing purposes primarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillE View Post
    Hmmm, lot of that seems to originate on less than reliable outlets, judging by past efforts.

    Imagine it would be a daunting task in highly infected populations like the US, all positive cases here are sequenced to trace where they originated, it's for contact tracing purposes primarily.

    Bill

    Positive for the general case at the local CVS pharmacy or Doctors Urgent Care chain that does not differentiate can hardly be expected to provide accurate information to our CDC. And those "outlets" do the lion's share of testings in my community.

    So where do the numbers come from.

    Not in freaking socialist, totalitarian, upside down Australasia (sic)!

    Where cops beat on citizens for not masking in their private vehicles.

    ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    Karaoke Television? Otherwise you lost me...
    Private room karaoke. Think drinking games and singsong girls.

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    truth tables

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    truth tables

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    Quote Originally Posted by CITIZEN F16 View Post
    Florida reported 21,683 new cases of COVID-19, the state’s highest one-day total since the start of the pandemic, according to federal health data released Saturday, as its theme park resorts again started asking visitors to wear masks indoors.

    I think this thing is going to surpass the Spanish flu of 1918 for duration, glad to see the great job the modern experts are doing.
    Shot my parents (didn't get vaccinated), now I'm an orphan (Look, people are dying of covid in Florida!!).

    Do you require an instruction book explaining how to breathe? And are you able to read it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    Depends. First off, they don't make George Floyds by systematically fucking over black people. In fact, in the main part of China, minorities have more rights than the majority, and no one bitches.
    And then there's the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, with almost 10% of the Uyghur population in "Reeducation" camps: China’s Repression of Uyghurs in Xinjiang | Council on Foreign Relations

    [Equal-opportunity bullshit pointer-outer]

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    Quote Originally Posted by CITIZEN F16 View Post
    This isn't your country, you are an admitted communist that got kicked out of China. So strange you are tolerated here, what a joke this place is.
    I guess you're unable to tolerate views different then your own?

    Why, I'd almost think you were a snowflake, melting under the stress of knowing others don't think exactly like you do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    I'm living in a part of Sydney that has benefited enormously by an influx of Koreans. I really, really appreciate how gorgeous those young women look.

    That's about the only good thing about being here ATM but hey - makes getting a coffee a much more pleasant experience when it's handed to you by a lovely young woman... no tats, no attitude.

    PDW
    Stop gloating, you bastard!

    [No offense to TMP, but the attitude and insularity of many Asian groups does make it a little tough to make headway there. But looking is still free(?)]

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    Any "real word" on the DELTA situation in the UK? I read... situation in hand, a nothing burger.

    But here it's "Delta means DEATH TO ALL", all over again.

    Wasn't it a UK bio doomsdayer that started this entire episode?
    Bullshit from the fantasist again. Nobody is saying "death to all" except the voices in your noggin (they seem to have a lot of room in there). But Delta is proven by field data (not anecdote) to be more transmissible than earlier variants, and seems more likely to harmfully effect younger people:

    Covid News: Delta Variant Accounts for Estimated 83 Percent of U.S. Cases - The New York Times

    Life is easier when you make up your own reality. It must scare the crap out of you to visit the real world...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscpm View Post
    The eternal thread.

    I will post again, although I have posted the same logic previously.

    The key thing to be aware of is that there is a failure to validate the idea of "COVID-19".

    New Zealand is the ONLY country in the world to mandate that people be tested TWICE when they are tested for COVID-19 via the PCR test. The value of this is obvious: if the test is legitimate then if a person is "infected" then both tests should be positive. But if the test is flawed in some way then what would happen is that people who are "positive" in one test, will be negative in the other, indicating that the test is randomly returning positives. This is exactly what we see in New Zealand: very few double positives. This is strong evidence that the "test" is invalid and returning essentially random results. (see Bustin's et al paper in the November 2020 issue of Clinical Chemistry).

    The problem is that people are accepting test results without validating those results by independent means.

    ANYONE who tested for the supposed "COVID-19" can validate those results simply by testing themselves TWICE, which they FAIL to do. If COVID-19 was a real disease then test should always return positive if the person is "infected" however, the reality is that people who are allegedly "infected" in the rare instance that they test themselves twice by independent laboratories never test positive in both cases. What this shows is that the "PCR test" is returning false positives by overamplifcation---an effect that was documented as far back as 1991l
    Dear god, make it stop!! I can only swim through an Olympic pool of bullshit, not an ocean!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post

    "It's not about your health. It never has been"
    It's not about your sanity. It never has been.

    Well, duh? Why should we focus on a non-entity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    Has anyone here gotten tested for the Wuhan Flu and had the test confirm the Delta variant?

    I've heard....... the commercial tests just don't do that.

    So where are the numbers coming from?
    Lab testing of samples collected from wherever. Just as it's been for decades:

    Laboratory Diagnosis of Virus Diseases

    Sorta like how we don't give birth in our homes too much anymore, or perform appendectomies in the kitchen.

    When did you lose your mind? Any causal events, or just spontaneous dissolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteM View Post
    Pretty huge (and incorrect) leap from the cited article to your idea that labs haven't validated the idea of Covid-19.

    Here's the Bustin 2020 article. It says labs need to better standardize their methods. file:///Users/admin/Downloads/ijms-21-03004.pdf
    Miss your postings, Pete. The FUD quotient is too high here, and we're losing rational voices...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    And then there's the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region
    Let's go through this once more for the slow reader : because they are separatists who want a theocracy. Like ISIS. Or imagine if the ten worst right-winger fundamentalists churches in the US decided to overthrow democracy so they could institute their own weirdass religion as state doctrine ... oh wait. Were you happy with that ?

    btw, your source sucks. Even Janet Cooke is more factual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalG View Post
    Any "real word" on the DELTA situation in the UK? I read... situation in hand, a nothing burger.

    But here it's "Delta means DEATH TO ALL", all over again.

    Wasn't it a UK bio doomsdayer that started this entire episode?
    Yesterday in the UK, there were 68 deaths reported WITH covid.
    That's 1 in 1,000,000 chance of dying WITH and not FROM it...

    Regarding Delta, (or any specific "variant"), apparently the only way it can be tested for, is via whole genome sequencing.

    And you're so last Wednesday.
    We have the GAMMA variant of doom approaching now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    I'm living in a part of Sydney that has benefited enormously by an influx of Koreans. I really, really appreciate how gorgeous those young women look.

    That's about the only good thing about being here ATM but hey - makes getting a coffee a much more pleasant experience when it's handed to you by a lovely young woman... no tats, no attitude.

    PDW
    I just saw this screen grab from Aus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    No insults, only facts. If you act like an idiot, believe like an idiot, tell lies like an idiot, and try your damndest to spread your idiocy...

    You're an idiot. Again, just straight fact, idiot.

    This article isn't for you. This is for those tiny, timid few who are still juuuust tettering on the fence of "is this a fake pandemic??" [gag me with a ventilator]:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...-nurses-runway

    You? Nothing I can do for you.

    And nothing I would do for you. Certainly, I wouldn't send flowers.

    ["The Great Reset"?? You fucking maggot...]
    Aaaaaannnnnddddd again, the predictable drivel of hurty words

    I have NEVER denied there was initially "something".
    70>80% of the "first wave" who died in Italy, Spain, UK were care home inhabitants (RIP) (same as a lot of the rest of the countries).
    Information shows that (UK) Gov policy mandates of DNR and Midazolam, certainly killed off the vast majority of those.

    And the "Liverpool care pathway", which is the palliative care treatment of letting people die by starving (my FIL was put on this 20 years ago) and was banned a few years ago for being inhumane, was re-introduced last year by the GOV....(and also this "process/procedure" has been exported to 20+ Govs worldwide)....

    Anyway, more info is gradually appearing showing that hospital admissions "with covid" are at least 25% exaggerated.
    And currently, the UK and Spain stats show it is long gone (which it would be because it's summer).

    What we're seeing now clearly, is a testing pandemic of "cases".
    That's "cases".
    Not hospital admissions.
    Not deaths.
    "Cases".
    Which is by design in the UK, because as I said previously, it is testing more people daily than the whole of the EU combined (that's 27 countries)...
    It will be interesting to see what happens in the US now, as Fauci said on an MSNBC interview "The Delta level of virus in a vaccinated person is exactly the same as in an unvaccinated person" (while smirking)...


    So, ref "the great reset".
    I'm not behind it - they're not my words dip shit
    The WEF buzzword is "build back better". Google Klaus Schwab if you want to open your closed eyes and educate yourself on the guy who openly admits he models himself on Darth Vader.
    Creepy Sloe is regurgitating it at every opportunity. Being such a bottom feeder of his, you must surely have heard him chunder it many times.
    Same as BoZo, same as Sanchez, same as all of them. It is the "catchphrase".
    The influencers love wearing the badge - see the attached (hint, they aren't wearing it for me - honest. I've got nothing to do with it)

    I previously posted the link showing how the WEF were awarded the UN contract for implementing all this shit.

    Will it happen - hopefully not because if it does, it means they will have first crashed the economy and none of us want that.
    But we'll see.
    It certainly appears they're doing their best to kill small businesses.

    You are a professional Gov propaganda swallower with delusions of grandeur.
    Go pee on a spark plug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    It will be interesting to see what happens in the US now, as Fauci said on an MSNBC interview "The Delta level of virus in a vaccinated person is exactly the same as in an unvaccinated person" (while smirking)...
    That Delta variant virus loads for the vaccinated can be as high as the unjabbed has already been stated in this thread.

    What you Bozos keep ignoring is that the harm/mortality of being infected is dramatically lower when the inoculated are carrying the virus - again, around 90% lower death rate. What is so hard about figuring out the benefits of not dying or being severely impaired??

    I may have misunderstood your use of the phrase "the great reset" - I've heard so much nonsense from the same trumper clan, including codewords for a "cleansing" of the country of blacks, jews, etc., that I jumped on that without full contextual understanding. From some further searching I see the phrase is used (misused) by both sides for their own needs:

    The Great Reset | World Economic Forum

    The coronavirus pandemic '''Great Reset''' theory and a false vaccine claim debunked - BBC News

    Having read this, I need to offer a sincere apology for my error, and in the spirit of good will I'll send one chrysanthemum if it becomes necessary.


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