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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    So when traitortrump gets sued it is because all big businessmen get sued, but when someone you disagree with gets sued...............uhh, ok
    What the hell are you talking about? When did I defend anything dealing with Trump and lawsuits? You are confusing me with someone else which is no surprise, as you are easily confused, the weak minded almost always are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    If you are too stupid AND selfish to get vaccinated, that's your business. We won't miss you when you're gone.

    You are the champion of willful ignorance.
    Goodie Goodie, I have had Covid numbskull. It didn't get me, so boo hoo for you.
    Why do you feel the unvaccinated need to be vaccinated to save the vaccinated? Isn't that what the so called vaccine is supposed to do?

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    Tune in tonight at 8:00 (If you can) to see the released hidden camera videos from project veritas dealing with vaccines.
    Should be interesting.

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    If you ever feel useless, like Big B most days.
    Just remember, it took our Government 20 years and trillions of dollars to replace the Taliban with the Taliban

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelrFn View Post
    Just remember, it took our Government 20 years and trillions of dollars to replace the Taliban with the Taliban
    A trillion a year at least, that could have been spent at home. Or even paying down the debt, omigod.

    But remember, people like Gewehr need a place to serve their country !

    Talk about stewpid ....

    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning
    Contractors are not provided with drones nor Hellfire missiles.
    If they are subbing for the CIA, they get whatever they want - including carte blanche to import coke to finance a specifically-illegal, blocked by Congress war in South America.

    Along with training in torture techniques at the Benevolent Country Service Academy in Fort Benning, Georgia ... never can tell when you might need to rack a nun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelrFn View Post
    Tune in tonight at 8:00 (If you can) to see the released hidden camera videos from project veritas dealing with vaccines.
    Should be interesting.
    Tune in to the video where that moron okeefe got scammed (delicous, scammer gets scammed) and wire transfers $165K to his "lawyer." That asshole is underwater in more ways than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    ... better path to motivate people to act vs what you like to do here.
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    Not gonna help. Some folks just can't help but love standing smack dab in the middle of the railroad tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    Some folks just can't help but love standing smack dab in the middle of the railroad tracks.
    Then they blame the train for hitting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustafson View Post
    So when traitortrump gets sued it is because all big businessmen get sued, but when someone you disagree with gets sued...............uhh, ok
    And don't forget, LOTS of business go bankrupt and still they are the BEST BUISINESSMEN EVER!!!! Perfect!

    They just go bankrupt and stiff their creditors because that's how the game is played. In trumpland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    If you are too stupid AND selfish to get vaccinated, that's your business. We won't miss you when you're gone.

    You are the champion of willful ignorance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Demon73 View Post
    Am I stupid and selfish, as I sit here with antibodies?
    Moi Aussie (pardon my buggered French)

    It is completely absurd for those of us with REAL Covid antibodies (currently estimated at over 100,000 Americans) to risk getting a jab that produces sorta-kinda antibodies (because they modified the spike protein created in order to avoid killing the recipients) and might produce Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) that could lead to a fatal case of Covid or any number of other side effects.

    These jackasses are so brainwashed they can’t comprehend that they are being lied to during one of the most pervasive propaganda campaigns ever mounted. As part of this campaign Doctors have been threatened and even jailed for using early treatments that help Covid patients and they have even dismissed naturally-acquired antibodies as “ineffective at providing protection”. Decades of medical knowledge are being turned upside down as part of this bizarre perversion of science for political purposes.

    I don’t know what the end game is but the tactics are evil so the desired result must be as well. This isn’t about public health but rather about public submission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    Moi Aussie (pardon my buggered French)

    It is completely absurd for those of us with REAL Covid antibodies (currently estimated at over 100,000 Americans) to risk getting a jab that produces sorta-kinda antibodies (because they modified the spike protein created in order to avoid killing the recipients) and might produce Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) that could lead to a fatal case of Covid or any number of other side effects.

    These jackasses are so brainwashed they can’t comprehend that they are being lied to during one of the most pervasive propaganda campaigns ever mounted. As part of this campaign Doctors have been threatened and even jailed for using early treatments that help Covid patients and they have even dismissed naturally-acquired antibodies as “ineffective at providing protection”. Decades of medical knowledge are being turned upside down as part of this bizarre perversion of science for political purposes.

    I don’t know what the end game is but the tactics are evil so the desired result must be as well. This isn’t about public health but rather about public submission.
    Yes scott you are so brainwashed you can’t comprehend that they are being lied to during one of the most pervasive propaganda campaigns ever mounted


    Please do list some citations for your ADE etc, like the one you did for horse dewormer being an official covid treatment,

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    A trillion a year at least, that could have been spent at home. Or even paying down the debt, omigod.

    But remember, people like Gewehr need a place to serve their country !

    Talk about stewpid ....


    If they are subbing for the CIA, they get whatever they want - including carte blanche to import coke to finance a specifically-illegal, blocked by Congress war in South America.

    Along with training in torture techniques at the Benevolent Country Service Academy in Fort Benning, Georgia ... never can tell when you might need to rack a nun.
    “ If they are subbing for the CIA, they get whatever they want - including carte blanche to import coke to finance a specifically-illegal, blocked by Congress war in South America.”

    You drove right past my good point. “they get whatever they want” - come on man!
    A drone with Hellfire missiles or a briefcase tactical nuke that is plain silly.

    Besides don’t you know that such trained killers would be fools to attack a nun. If they could ever figure out how to convince them that God wants them to be such contractors then go hide and stay very quiet!

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    Oh let me do it for you scott


    Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE) of Coronaviruses

    Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) may develop via more than one molecular mechanism. One model suggestions that antibody/Fc-receptor complex functionally mimics viral receptor enabling expanded host cell trophism of some phagocytic cells (54). Wan et al. (54) illustrate an antibody dosage effect for enhancing disease or inhibiting the virus dependent upon the antibody dosage. It is well-established that antibodies to one strain of a virus may be subneutralizing or non-neutralizing for viral infections of different strains (55–57). Infection of cells expressing Fc-gamma was shown for SARS-CoV-1 (58). A possible case of ADE was observed in a patient with a second SARS-CoV-2 infection (59). Early vaccine results show significant antibody responses by day 14 (60) which represents memory B-cell responses (i.e., original antigenic sin) with cross-reactivity antibodies from likely other coronavirus strain(s). Early high antibody responses are correlated with increased disease severity for both SARS (61) and COVID-19 (62–67). Wu et al. demonstrated that antibodies from COVID-19 patients enabled SARS-CoV-2 infections of Raji cells (lymphoma cells derived from B lymphocytes), K562 cells (derived from monocytes), and primary B cells (68). SARS-CoV-2 infection of some phagocytic cells (i.e., macrophages) may be a key gate step in disease progression for some patients.

    Frontiers | Two Different Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE) Risks for SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies | Immunology

    Yeah, you get ADE from getting Covid, especially multiple times

    Sounds like an endorsement for vaccination


    [edit]
    Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) is something researchers watch for very carefully and is extremely rare. In ADE, certain antibodies make it easier for viruses to get into cells. This is bad because it would mean a virus or a vaccine makes people more at risk for severe disease.

    If COVID-19 vaccines caused ADE, people who are vaccinated against COVID-19 would have more severe disease. This is not happening. On the contrary, people who are vaccinated typically have very mild disease or none at all. In fact, the majority of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. are people who aren't fully vaccinated. In May, fully vaccinated people made up just 0.8% of COVID-19 deaths. That means 99.2% of COVID-19 deaths were in unvaccinated people.

    The COVID-19 vaccines are safe. More than 155 million people in the United States are fully vaccinated.




    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Conspiracy theories about antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) with COVID-19 vaccines are swirling yet again, apparently due to a letter to the editor and a controversial talk by a physician at a school board meeting.

    That's despite the fact that there's absolutely no evidence of the condition occurring as hundreds of millions of people around the world have been vaccinated.

    "If COVID-19 vaccines caused ADE, people who are vaccinated against COVID-19 would have more severe disease," Nada Fadul, MD, an infectious diseases physician with Nebraska Medicine, said in a statement. "This is not happening. On the contrary, people who are vaccinated typically have very mild disease or none at all. In fact, the majority of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. are people who aren't fully vaccinated."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    Not gonna help. Some folks just can't help but love standing smack dab in the middle of the railroad tracks.
    I suppose they may have thought y’all were not driving the train as they thought the vaccinated were safe.

    “Not gonna help” well ya never know until you try first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottl View Post
    Moi Aussie (pardon my buggered French)

    It is completely absurd for those of us with REAL Covid antibodies (currently estimated at over 100,000 Americans) to risk getting a jab that produces sorta-kinda antibodies (because they modified the spike protein created in order to avoid killing the recipients) and might produce Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) that could lead to a fatal case of Covid or any number of other side effects.

    These jackasses are so brainwashed they can’t comprehend that they are being lied to during one of the most pervasive propaganda campaigns ever mounted. As part of this campaign Doctors have been threatened and even jailed for using early treatments that help Covid patients and they have even dismissed naturally-acquired antibodies as “ineffective at providing protection”. Decades of medical knowledge are being turned upside down as part of this bizarre perversion of science for political purposes.

    I don’t know what the end game is but the tactics are evil so the desired result must be as well. This isn’t about public health but rather about public submission.
    With all of your supposed knowledge, I'll bet you know what the end game is and you just aren't telling us mere mortals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    And don't forget, LOTS of business go bankrupt and still they are the BEST BUISINESSMEN EVER!!!! Perfect!

    They just go bankrupt and stiff their creditors because that's how the game is played. In trumpland.
    They should make a law to follow when their business goes under to protect the banksters and other liberals. Oh wait they have that already it is called Bankruptcy.

    A side note about inflation. There are always winners in any scenario.

    “ John Maynard Keynes;
    “The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens.
    John Maynard Keynes”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
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    “Not gonna help” well ya never know until you try first.
    Two most common things in the universe: hydrogen and stupidity. We all know how that rodeo is going to play out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    They should make a law to follow when their business goes under to protect the banksters and other liberals. Oh wait they have that already it is called Bankruptcy.
    Please explain how letting the trumpster stiff all his creditors and employees is protecting liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    They should make a law to follow when their business goes under to protect the banksters and other liberals. Oh wait they have that already it is called Bankruptcy.

    A side note about inflation. There are always winners in any scenario.

    “ John Maynard Keynes;
    “The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens.
    John Maynard Keynes”
    RIght and what is the only thing worse than inflation?

    Deflation

    Ask the Japanese how that felt




    There is no zero change system, there is inflation and deflation


    But I suppose that is easier than having a point on Covid

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    Two most common things in the universe: hydrogen and stupidity. We all know how that rodeo is going to play out.
    I thought it was death and taxes.

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