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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    Then I suppose you want to blow up the interstate highway system ? And before that, the transcontinental railroads ?
    I do get your point, but before both of those there was very little by way of viable alternatives.
    When steam locomotives and later ICE cars became the next chapter, the country ( government ) responded.
    It did not destroy or tax out of existence what was, rather allowed and helped out what was to come.

    Note the point that it DID NOT DESTROY OR TAX OR SHAME OR CANCEL OUT OF EXISTENCE WHAT WAS!

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    In fact ,they did......quickly sanctioned the slow speed and mess of horse drawn vehicles ,by putting them off the main roads and confining them to outside of city limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeymourDumore View Post
    Note the point that it DID NOT DESTROY OR TAX OR SHAME OR CANCEL OUT OF EXISTENCE WHAT WAS!
    Actually, that's exactly what the government did. With the investment of seventy-five billion dollars in the interstate highway system (1950's money), the government just about killed the railroads. All the passenger service was killed off and papered over by the creation of amtrak. REA was killed, much freight service was killed, thousands of miles of track had to be abandoned, at great expense and with maximum hassle due to the ICC regulations, designed for a time when rail transport was the only answer.

    You're probably going to find that any investment in something new kills off something old. The trick is to make sure the investment is a wise one. Private industry is no longer capable of that.

    Government in the US is apparently not capable either. This is a problem. There's no one with a brain steering the ship, either private or public.

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    Meanwhile, back in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    But CYBER NINJAS!!!!

    They proved that trump picked up 261 votes and biden lost 99 votes.

    Oh. I have it backwards. Sorry.

    Biden picked up 261 and trump lost a further 99 votes. So he's a bigger loser than ever in AZ. Oh well. What's the next sore loser ploy gonna be?
    Well this is the point where the obvious advancement should be the obvious. This was my point all along that counting or verifying are a way to move forward.

    At least where people are actually rational people. For those which are not they simply disengage for a bit and then resume with greater insanity the useless conflict. To which they waste the hours, days, weeks, and years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milland View Post
    This has been brought up before, but what the heck, it's time for a reboot:

    Does anyone else here think standardparts is an actual troll, as in a paid professional? He clearly doesn't work as a machinist, or at least hasn't the time to do anything as he's constantly shit-posting here.

    So - Russian, or American-bred troll? He's certainly earning his per-word, not that the words themselves have value...
    That you bring it up all this amounts to is a repeating theme of “the troll or the paid antagonist or the experimental AI”.

    First that there be any money which would be paid out to influence us would be a rather silly investment. “The Troll “ will often work for free and really is a rebel beholding to their own ego or psychological malady.

    The AI is always interesting and here it is sort of mystical and of a type of scientific high tech religion. This is the first choice to grasp on to when traditional religion and belief in God is discarded. Turns out in the absence of God replacements and new retro God is shuffled into the card deck.

    As things change so they can remain the same. New boss same as the old boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon73 View Post
    Meanwhile, back in the UK.
    WTF is this all about heh?
    The BIT (Gov Nudge unit) must be absolutely pissing themselves with all of this.
    Put 1x piece out on the news and BAM!
    I read today that the army is being brought in to drive ambulances because of the (apparent) driver shortage.
    I expect toilet rolls will be again fought over soon....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    That you bring it up all this amounts to is a repeating theme of “the troll or the paid antagonist or the experimental AI”.
    Remember that Millie was a Gov paid college janitor for quite a few years.
    He's a sucker of the Gov teat so will defend the institution to the death....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcsipo View Post
    Not certain if you are baiting me . I think the immigration issue needs to be urgently solved by expanding the number of asylum seekers allowed in on a humanitarian basis. The US needs a durable guest-worker system and a path to citizenship for DACA recipients. But the Democrats do not have the balls to solve this, and the Republicans do not want to solve it because it is the red meat for the base. Politics is a savage game, if you show a shred of humanity, you are a loser. Both parties are contributing shamefully to this disastrous situation. As long as we make climate disasters worse for the Caribbean and Central America, prop up two-bit dictators and buy all the drugs they produce, we deserve every bit. of this. Yes, Biden deserves a lot of blame for the situation at the border, but he is getting no congressional help to solve it.
    Well open it all up is where it is going unless you just wish to discount it. Why have a guest worker program at all? There are lots of Americans here already who pay taxes so what about them?

    Oh let’s just let everyone in there are no countries. “Imagine” just like the song. You see what happens in Europe when the flood gates are opened. It trucks along until some group steps onto the stage it fires conflict and war. Europe attempts to devolve into a tribal society such as the barbarians had. Their society largely remained frozen in time.

    Extremism is whatever it is and it can be liberal or conservative. It can be both. Extremism is the problem not the solution. Today the persons protesting on the doorstep often are themselves examples of what they are warning everyone of. There is no truth nor honesty. Such is intentional.

    The killers in each radical segment are of one feather regardless of how they present themselves. Common sense and being true to ourselves is the most valuable things as it cuts through the mass hysteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcsipo View Post
    yeah....like #7 or #9, maybe lower on the list. I have more things on the list before the border issue. Solving many of those will have side effects that will diminish the border issue. Look, I think the administration is not handling the border well, but they are not handling some of the things that are in the top 5 very well either. So I want them to concentrate on those first. Also, there are gazillions of federal workers, they can work on many things at the same time. Priorities really equate to resources expended by the feds on priorities not simply time urgency. The immigration issue is not a huge resource sink, just a political quagmire.
    “ Solving many of those will have side effects that will diminish the border issue.”

    Ok give us a couple of examples of that explained please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    I thought that the word genius got changed to jenius to match trumps middle initial. You must have missed it. Keep it up and you will be thrown out of the trump cult.
    Here we go again. You thought,stop thinking,it is obviously making your brain hurt.
    Did you notice that your spelling of genius (jenius) got underlined in red again. This means that you have MISSPELT it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    You seem to have a basic misunderstanding of how the US government works. Congress legislates, not the executive.

    The president isn't really responsible for doodly-squat (as long as congress lives up to its responsibilities, which admittedly is a problem.)

    Are you sure you are from wisconsin ? Or is there a wisconsin just north of vladivostok ?

    If you are from the one in the midwest, your education sucks.


    Because I was born in the US and have a history and passport from there. The US is a worldwide problem. The imbeciles running that ship affect everywhere else. What they do fucks with my life.

    Why are you on every statement anyone makes instantly ? Paid to disrupt ? Because that's all you do. Have not heard a single thing from you in the pro direction for anyone or anything, except the Donald, whom you claim to dislike.
    "paid to disrupt"? Or to influence?
    ....simply working for differant bosses Kamerade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camscan View Post
    Here we go again. You thought,stop thinking,it is obviously making your brain hurt.
    Did you notice that your spelling of genius (jenius) got underlined in red again. This means that you have MISSPELT it.
    You say he's thinking too much.
    I say he's thinking not enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    Remember that Millie was a Gov paid college janitor for quite a few years.
    He's a sucker of the Gov teat so will defend the institution to the death....
    Please. Respect. It is Doctor Milland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmanuelGoldstein View Post
    Actually, that's exactly what the government did. With the investment of seventy-five billion dollars in the interstate highway system (1950's money), the government just about killed the railroads. All the passenger service was killed off and papered over by the creation of amtrak. REA was killed, much freight service was killed, thousands of miles of track had to be abandoned, at great expense and with maximum hassle due to the ICC regulations, designed for a time when rail transport was the only answer.

    You're probably going to find that any investment in something new kills off something old. The trick is to make sure the investment is a wise one. Private industry is no longer capable of that.

    Government in the US is apparently not capable either. This is a problem. There's no one with a brain steering the ship, either private or public.
    We have President Joe Biden at the helm!

    Soon......"Build Back Better!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcsipo View Post
    So....

    The Democrats need to deliver

    Infrastructure plan? What portion of it do you object to? The reconciliation, the 3.5T package? What part do you object to? The daycare? Pre K? 2-year community college? Child credit? Expansion medicare, alternative energy plans? Electric cars? We need to transform the economy, or we will not survive.

    We need to advocate to get small business support into those packages. I am a partner in a small business, and we advocate through a lobbyist, We need to elect people who support small businesses.
    Small business is wasteful and inefficient. We need Government to control the means of production.

    Universal income for all. Free health care and education. Allow each person to achieve thier dreams.

    A total reset is what is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by standardparts View Post
    We have President Joe Biden at the helm!

    Soon......"Build Back Better!"
    I think a little further to go yet with more systematic dismantling and disruption. Probably at least going into next spring....gotta have more division and unhappiness and the chance for more smaller companies to be taken over by the big ones.
    Before you can then 6uild 6ack 6etter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    I think a little further to go yet with more systematic dismantling and disruption. Probably at least going into next spring....gotta have more division and unhappiness and the chance for more smaller companies to be taken over by the big ones.
    Before you can then 6uild 6ack 6etter....
    America will succeed once we fully allow Lockheed Martin to run the Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trueturning View Post
    Well open it all up is where it is going unless you just wish to discount it. Why have a guest worker program at all? There are lots of Americans here already who pay taxes so what about them?

    Oh let’s just let everyone in there are no countries. “Imagine” just like the song. You see what happens in Europe when the flood gates are opened. It trucks along until some group steps onto the stage it fires conflict and war. Europe attempts to devolve into a tribal society such as the barbarians had. Their society largely remained frozen in time.

    Extremism is whatever it is and it can be liberal or conservative. It can be both. Extremism is the problem not the solution. Today the persons protesting on the doorstep often are themselves examples of what they are warning everyone of. There is no truth nor honesty. Such is intentional.

    The killers in each radical segment are of one feather regardless of how they present themselves. Common sense and being true to ourselves is the most valuable things as it cuts through the mass hysteria.
    The elites will require vast numbers of laborers in order to remake America.

    Open borders is not about attracting the best and brightest, it's about strong backs and pliable minds that follow orders. More mouths to feed and provide services for to expand the government employee rolls which of course brings us full circle....government does not really attract the best and brightest but those who follow orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by standardparts View Post
    The elites will require vast numbers of laborers in order to remake America.

    Open borders is not about attracting the best and brightest, it's about strong backs and pliable minds that follow orders. More mouths to feed and provide services for to expand the government employee rolls which of course brings us full circle....government does not really attract the best and brightest but those who follow orders.
    Continuing....

    So how to house the tens or hundreds of thousands of people that will soon be here?

    Remake the cities! The prototypes are available--one can look to the Soviet Union of the 1960's where vast multi-story apartment complexes were built upon the rubble of cities destroyed in WW2.

    Many areas of major U.S. cities could replicate the Soviet plan! Once completed the apartment can be used as a reward for compliance and support of the regime in charge.

    None of this is impossible---"The Squad" led by AOC and a few old guard pols like Pelosi and Shumer have the knowledge and experience, and more importantly they have Joe Biden's signature.

    It's all about meeting the expectations of Americans. Free everything.


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