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    Quote Originally Posted by camscan View Post
    Well that's just killed your argument Re Mrs Clarke hasn't it.
    People who live in black pots, shouldn't throw stones at glass house kettles!
    Or something like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    People who live in black pots, shouldn't throw stones at glass house kettles!
    Or something like that...
    "Thundermugs" we called those, back in the day when Appalachian winters made a dash to the privy life-threatening. Best left in life's "rear-view" mirror, yah? I mean.. some poor sod then had to EMPTY the damned things. DAMHIKT!

    Mind... speaking of living in black pots... Brexit is hardly the first time Brits got the opportunity to "express" an opinion of Continental doin's:

    A bust of Napoleon in a chamber pot lets Britons express opinion - now for auction | UK | News | Express.co.uk

    The worry this go, is that it will be a German politician. And standing TALL!


    Meanwhile.. back with the bowl?

    I'd settle for being able to find Marston's Pedigree back on the shelf, my local supermart rather than present-locator having it 216 miles away, downtown NewYawk s***ty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    Hmmmm... it could be... they drag this out long enough, UK won't HAVE To "leave".

    DE goes deeper into recession, France further yellow-vests itself, Greece, Spain, Italy able to borrow big bucks again?

    EU could just dry-up, crack, and fall-off, like an old scab on skint knees, or dried turd on a cow's ass.

    That is an interesting thought...
    I mentioned Deutsche bank back a while, because they were supposed to merge with Commerze Bank but it fell through.
    Deutsche are not in a good state - although the profits were 263 million Euro (woop), they are currently losing $1 Billion per day.

    Yes, that's $1 Billion per day.

    It has $43 TRILLION in derivatives.

    The proposed re-structure is to cost 18,000 jobs but from what I’ve read they'll run out of time long before this gets organised and implemented.

    The *big boys* in the senior positions are already jumping or have left the sinking ship...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    People who live in black pots, shouldn't throw stones at glass house kettles!
    Or something like that...
    Quit yakking about kettles and get the damn thing on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    That is an interesting thought...
    I mentioned Deutsche bank back a while, because they were supposed to merge with Commerze Bank but it fell through.
    Deutsche are not in a good state - although the profits were 263 million Euro (woop), they are currently losing $1 Billion per day.

    Yes, that's $1 Billion per day.

    It has $43 TRILLION in derivatives.

    The proposed re-structure is to cost 18,000 jobs but from what I’ve read they'll run out of time long before this gets organised and implemented.

    The *big boys* in the senior positions are already jumping or have left the sinking ship...
    EITHER of those two alleged-banks?

    "Couldn't happen to a nicer goy!" Derivatives being the long spelling for "gambling on fraud". Or "fraudulent gambling" - virtual, not virtuous, even so.

    Take yer pick, because they don't OWN any more of the assets tracked than the Queen of Diamonds on a playing card has a kingdom, castle.. or, least of all, genitalia as might ID King, Queen.... or Jester.

    Thing is.. DE - as a hole nation - (no, that was not a spelling error... read on) also has this little problem about pension obligations.

    Whether underfunded. Or Unfunded. Worst parts is they are "off the books" .. of the national economy.

    How healthy d'you suppose THAT leaves Weimar Reich revanche if those were netted against their alleged wealth?

    Surely DE wants the UK to stay in. They may soon need somebody to eat. Soylent Green New Deal?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    Quit yakking about kettles and get the damn thing on!
    One lump or two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    One lump or two?
    Grapeshot...else rabbit-pellets, please.

    Save the softer work for when it's Gordo on the emptying-out roster.

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    Bikkies - biscuits . I looked that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post
    Derivatives being the long spelling for "gambling on fraud". Or "fraudulent gambling" - virtual, not virtuous, even so.
    So if you take $43 trillion of made up debt ( ) and divide that into the worlds population of 7.7 Billion,
    that equates to $5.5k per person (unless my maths is wonky!).

    That's an awful lot of financial shit to be in. And my 'ol chap used to worry if he'd forgotten to pay the milk man.
    Changing times I guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    So if you take $43 trillion of made up debt ( ) and divide that into the worlds population of 7.7 Billion,
    that equates to $5.5k per person (unless my maths is wonky!).

    That's an awful lot of financial shit to be in. And my 'ol chap used to worry if he'd forgotten to pay the milk man.
    Changing times I guess...
    Ga-ron-tee the Nepalese ain't picking up a share of that turd, even by the clean end.
    Nor much of the population of 200-odd other countries.

    Similar maths apply as to per-capita share of Yew-Ass national debt - about $67,000 per.
    But "per Capita" when MONEY is involved actually only counts as to those who have some. Net.

    $43 trillion ever actually had to be shifted onto the taxpayer - 53 million in-work for DE, but guess what? Not all that much in net WORTH above their own personal mortgages and such. So "nevah hoppen".

    I did cite "Weimar Reich?"

    Back to whom it is that ever believed "derivatives" had any value but greater-fool glitter?

    Could was exactly the right tribe of fools are already on that partic'lar "hook".

    Mind - the alleged-bank is only the bookmaker. "Interesting times" a'coming, glow-ball casino games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    Mrs Thatcher, she showed the right wing of the Tory party where it's balls were, .........….and poor Joe average been paying the price ever since.
    One of the things Neil Kinnock got right was when he said " She has plenty of guts just as long as it's someone else's guts that's on the line " or words to that effect. It's OK to be tough when you've no skin in the fight. She completely fell apart when that total waste of space son of hers got himself lost in North Africa for a day or two.

    Edit. I looked up the comment.

    Kinnock was being heckled by Tories over the Falklands Campaign.

    One Tory shouted - " At least Mrs Thatcher has got guts ".

    Kinnock replied - " It's a pity that other people had to leave theirs on the ground at Goose Green ( a battle in the Falklands Campaign ) to prove it ! "

    Regards Tyrone.

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    So what would you have done Tyrone? Let Argentina have it and turn your back on the people?
    Or?

    And don't get me wrong, I've said before she was wrong in my books for privatising what she did, but she inherited a totally bankrupt country from Labour and needed money? Just as happened after the Blair/Brown era?
    Nowadays of course, you just print more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    So what would you have done Tyrone? Let Argentina have it and turn your back on the people?
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    Simple - Left the RN ice patrol vessel Endeavor where it was instead of penny pinching and giving the Argy bastards their chance, ……………..anybody seeing a correlation with the present day Iranian situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    So what would you have done Tyrone? Let Argentina have it and turn your back on the people?
    Or?
    Tough call. External factors always are. Destroying Argentina's economy hasn't worked yet. They've never had one as would be much missed. See also "Iran".

    Even so, she got it far closer to something that could work, long-shot odds or no - and that ultimately DID work - than Lord North had done and kept on doing to the tune of 30,000-plus dead (Hessians included..). And then his side LOST, to boot.

    UK population was only 8 million in that era, too. Part of why UK had to hire Hessians to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermite View Post

    Now... how hard could it be to convince the ersatz hooverment of the Kalifornikyah SSR to take about one or two Airbus 380 loads a week of the OTHER c**ts as aren't doing Blighty one damned bit of use?

    Surely LA & SF have sidewalk space still underutilized, and tame rats and fleas enough to go around??

    "The World Wonders..."

    NNN
    Rather a sidewalk in LA then be in Virginia trailer park sorrounded by it's opioid addicted residents

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    Quote Originally Posted by triumph406 View Post
    Rather a sidewalk in LA then be in Virginia sorrounded by it's opioid addicted residents
    Take a number and wait yer damned turn, then. It will come soon enough. The delay is just payback outta mean backlash for making ever' damn thing in the world cause cancer.

    Drugs are a national problem. Even Global. Dunno what else was expected, so-called "recreational drug" privileges legislated, personal responsibility, NOT, and state as well as non-state actors got to "weaponizing" them to grab advantage off the gullibility, irresponsibility, and instant-gratification greed.

    Darwin's ghost is eatin' reg'lar-like, though.

    Virginia is below the averages, BTW. Our major addiction is called "TDS". You may be thinking of WEST By Gawd Virginia as is so sadly hag-ridden?

    Have a look:

    USA:

    Access Denied

    US can't claim the patent on it, either:

    Britain's drugs MAPPED: Do YOU live in the area with the highest level of poisonings? | Express.co.uk

    Countries | www.emcdda.europa.eu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    Simple - Left the RN ice patrol vessel Endeavor where it was instead of penny pinching and giving the Argy bastards their chance, ……………..anybody seeing a correlation with the present day Iranian situation.
    I didn't realise that...Hmmm, eerily similar to Iran.
    Who says history doesn't repeat itself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by camscan View Post
    How much money did Gordon Brown take out of your pension?
    Too much - and sold our gold far too cheap too the Bastard!
    True cost of Labour's pension tax raid (and others since Seventies) - Telegraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    I didn't realise that...Hmmm, eerily similar to Iran.
    Who says history doesn't repeat itself...
    It's victims, mostly. But only if they left an historical record.

    Iran's situation may be one of the simplest.. historically.

    The head aged-in-the-turban nutcase realizes he is mortal and wants to get on with it, blaze of glory and all that, martyred for the historical record.

    Putin is more worrisome. similar reason. No other exit strategy apparent, and he already HAS nukes..

    Several.


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    Quote Originally Posted by barbter View Post
    So what would you have done Tyrone? Let Argentina have it and turn your back on the people?
    Or?

    And don't get me wrong, I've said before she was wrong in my books for privatising what she did, but she inherited a totally bankrupt country from Labour and needed money? Just as happened after the Blair/Brown era?
    Nowadays of course, you just print more...
    Well as the Irishman said when asked for directions - " Well Sir, I wouldn't start from here ". If the Falklands mattered that much to us we shouldn't have left the defence of them to a platoon of squaddies.

    Do I think they are worth all those lives lost - no.

    Two bald men arguing over a comb springs to mind.

    Regards Tyrone.


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